It's almost time for a new suspension! ...another PSS-9 question.
10-17-2007, 04:04 AM
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It's almost time for a new suspension! ...another PSS-9 question.
Hi all,
I'm on the fence between the M030/Bilstein and the PSS-9 set ups. The price is close enough (of course I can get the upgraded sways with the OEM set up as a bonus). If I were to purchase the PSS-9, the budget won't allow for sways.
The answer to this question may push me one way or another:
Does the PSS-9 upgrade require me to purchase new droplinks or anything else?
TIA,
Doug
I'm on the fence between the M030/Bilstein and the PSS-9 set ups. The price is close enough (of course I can get the upgraded sways with the OEM set up as a bonus). If I were to purchase the PSS-9, the budget won't allow for sways.
The answer to this question may push me one way or another:
Does the PSS-9 upgrade require me to purchase new droplinks or anything else?
TIA,
Doug
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10-17-2007, 09:09 AM
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You should order 2 extra lock-rings but otherwise no new drop links required, unless you want to go really low. You can upgrade sways later. The PSS9s are really nice and the adjustability is a big plus.
10-17-2007, 09:20 AM
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Bias Opinion here... PSS9's have a Huge range of ride settings which really make it nice when you want to track it / autocross / or cruise on the road w/o rattling your fillings out. Mine are about a month old and I just changed the ride to Soft this weekend and cannot believe how well the car rides for how low it is. my $ .02
10-17-2007, 10:29 AM
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A recent PSS9 install on this beauty. The above mentioned advice is great, buy two extra lock rings for the RARB mount. Some detail clearancing is required to install the lock rings on the bottom of the ARB drop link mount as they foul the gusset ribs slightly. See image below.
Also, if you go much lower than this car, you will need to shorten the provided rear drop links as they get really really close to interfering with the rear toe links (at full droop).
Also, if you go much lower than this car, you will need to shorten the provided rear drop links as they get really really close to interfering with the rear toe links (at full droop).
10-17-2007, 10:42 AM
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Thanks Troy and Dave!
You cars look great...that's the look I'm going for. I recently bought a set of turbo twists and had them shipped to LA... bought them via internet while deployed to Ramadi, Iraq...I have a bit of a patience problem.
It looks like PSS-9s it is. Now to break it to the wife....it's a good thing Christmas is coming up.
Just got a message from ViperBob...the PSS-9s do require new droplinks...but they're included in the kit. Thanks Bob!
Regards,
Doug
You cars look great...that's the look I'm going for. I recently bought a set of turbo twists and had them shipped to LA... bought them via internet while deployed to Ramadi, Iraq...I have a bit of a patience problem.
It looks like PSS-9s it is. Now to break it to the wife....it's a good thing Christmas is coming up.
Just got a message from ViperBob...the PSS-9s do require new droplinks...but they're included in the kit. Thanks Bob!
Regards,
Doug
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10-17-2007, 11:13 AM
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Drop links....
I am looking at a front set from Tarett Engineering in San Diego. [URL="http://www.tarett.com/items/993-964-products/list.htm"]
Totally adjustable to eliminate sway bar preload. And the right length too, not too long preventing any possible contact between the drop link and the lower control arm. The stock Porsche drop links I was using were too long, about 225 mm. 200mm is best for me, + or - a few mm for adjustability.
Totally adjustable to eliminate sway bar preload. And the right length too, not too long preventing any possible contact between the drop link and the lower control arm. The stock Porsche drop links I was using were too long, about 225 mm. 200mm is best for me, + or - a few mm for adjustability.
10-17-2007, 11:35 AM
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PSS9 and ride height
Bias Opinion here... PSS9's have a Huge range of ride settings which really make it nice when you want to track it / autocross / or cruise on the road w/o rattling your fillings out. Mine are about a month old and I just changed the ride to Soft this weekend and cannot believe how well the car rides for how low it is. my $ .02
PSS9s have <nine> settings for ride quality, right? (actually plus iterations of all possible combinations of each strut [reaching back to dark educational past, I think this is called factorials ?] ).
questions;
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
cheers
Craig
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10-17-2007, 11:48 AM
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Dumb question but what does a PSS-9 setup run installed?
10-17-2007, 12:23 PM
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PSS9s have <nine> settings for ride quality, right? (actually plus iterations of all possible combinations of each strut [reaching back to dark educational past, I think this is called factorials ?] ).
questions;
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
cheers
Craig
questions;
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
cheers
Craig
10-17-2007, 12:25 PM
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10-17-2007, 01:02 PM
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questions;
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
You can dial in the Stiff - Soft setting between 1-9 which is easily accessable. (literally takes 3 minutes) Then you can adjust the height by basically turning the bracket supporting the spring on the coilover. The adjustment on height is variable from 0 - ~35mm. That being said, any large height adjustment would require an alignment adjustment. However a "softening" adjustoment can be made without any alignment needed.
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
You can dial in the Stiff - Soft setting between 1-9 which is easily accessable. (literally takes 3 minutes) Then you can adjust the height by basically turning the bracket supporting the spring on the coilover. The adjustment on height is variable from 0 - ~35mm. That being said, any large height adjustment would require an alignment adjustment. However a "softening" adjustoment can be made without any alignment needed.
10-17-2007, 01:24 PM
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1=stiff
8-9=way too soft & bouncy
2-7= everything else
I saw some PSS9 shock dyno plots for a non-porsche application (audi IIRC) and it confirmed this.
10-17-2007, 04:10 PM
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questions;
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
You can dial in the Stiff - Soft setting between 1-9 which is easily accessable. (literally takes 3 minutes) Then you can adjust the height by basically turning the bracket supporting the spring on the coilover. The adjustment on height is variable from 0 - ~35mm. That being said, any large height adjustment would require an alignment adjustment. However a "softening" adjustoment can be made without any alignment needed.
1. does each change in ride setting correspond to a ride height setting?
2. if so, does the ride height change enough to require wheel alignment to be repeated?
You can dial in the Stiff - Soft setting between 1-9 which is easily accessable. (literally takes 3 minutes) Then you can adjust the height by basically turning the bracket supporting the spring on the coilover. The adjustment on height is variable from 0 - ~35mm. That being said, any large height adjustment would require an alignment adjustment. However a "softening" adjustoment can be made without any alignment needed.
purchasing PSS9's vs MO30 makes more sense now
cheers
Craig
10-17-2007, 04:24 PM
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1(r)/3(f)=bearable stiff on the street but not that stiff on the track (my current settings)
2-5=everything else
6=bottoming occurs alot
7-9=too too soft and bouncy