993 speakers replacement
#16
Weathergirl
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I am intrigued by this statement:
Sounds like a great way to save a few pounds high and to the rear!
I am only driving the door mounted speakers, the rear decklid speakers are pretty much worthless. In my prior setup I did drive the rear Eclipse's and they provided nothing to the overall sound quality in the car.
#17
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
I am intrigued by this statement:Sounds like a great way to save a few pounds high and to the rear!
Those speakers are so small that the wieght savings in removing them is de minimis. However, if one was concerned about the wight of their car I seriously doubt they would put in "audiophile" speakers up front as they are heavier than the standard ones as the magnets they use are quite powerful and quite heavy. Also, a half decent amplifier is not exactly light either. If one were to eliminate the amp and drive the speakers with the head unit it would be a total waste of money as even "audiophile grade" head units have atrocious amplification and sound only slightly better than an average head unit. I'd "guesstimate" my system added maybe 20# to the car, which is what 2.5 gallons of gas? If I drop the "deuce" I can lose that kind of weight in one sitting.
#18
Three Wheelin'
I have MB quart front, boston acoustics in rear (cabriolet, so the backs are small) and a fosgate amp mounted to a board that's strapped to the gas tank and under the carpet (got that idea from a rennlist poster). Sound is acceptible/pretty good- not as good as a modern sedan system, but...my goal was stock speaker sizes and grills, no drilling and minimal difference in look- secondary was better sound. Being as the car is a weekend only car, I have the radio off and top down 70% of the time anyway
I have a alpine CD head, and by chance at night the green and orange lights match the green and orange interior lights perfectly (the green light for the spoiler lift and fog light switch and orange light for mirror/rear windos defogger and other center console light (I think for the "!" if I recall) ).
Please consider your choice carefully- consider going the route of less quality sound but as close to stock look as possible using the existing speaker holes, hidden amp, etc. Think of all the older cars you've seen with bigger speakers put in or period aftermarket stuff, and how much nicer those cars would have looked with stock or close-to-stock components. Just something to think of. I'm a little **** wanting everything as close to stock as possible, but that's just me. Part of me wanted to pay to have the CD1 Porsche unit repaired instead of the alpine....I saved it just in case, but really the alpine looks fine. I chucked the stock speakers as they were completely shot.
By the way, being as I have a smaller amp and I'm not powering huge subs or anything like that, the amp gets enough cooling under the carpet and doesn't seem to get too hot.
One more thing- I bought the MB Quarts and amp brand new on ebay and saved some money.
-Andrew
I have a alpine CD head, and by chance at night the green and orange lights match the green and orange interior lights perfectly (the green light for the spoiler lift and fog light switch and orange light for mirror/rear windos defogger and other center console light (I think for the "!" if I recall) ).
Please consider your choice carefully- consider going the route of less quality sound but as close to stock look as possible using the existing speaker holes, hidden amp, etc. Think of all the older cars you've seen with bigger speakers put in or period aftermarket stuff, and how much nicer those cars would have looked with stock or close-to-stock components. Just something to think of. I'm a little **** wanting everything as close to stock as possible, but that's just me. Part of me wanted to pay to have the CD1 Porsche unit repaired instead of the alpine....I saved it just in case, but really the alpine looks fine. I chucked the stock speakers as they were completely shot.
By the way, being as I have a smaller amp and I'm not powering huge subs or anything like that, the amp gets enough cooling under the carpet and doesn't seem to get too hot.
One more thing- I bought the MB Quarts and amp brand new on ebay and saved some money.
-Andrew
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#21
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Originally Posted by rkb
Anyone have any idea on the largest item that can be placed under the passenger seat without modifications? I'm trying to put a crossover there.
#22
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Sorry, I should have been clearer. I'm looking to stuff a huge electronic Alpine crossover that is WAY overkill under the seat.
(Sorry to hijack this thread – I think I should start a new thread as this is not speaker related!)
(Sorry to hijack this thread – I think I should start a new thread as this is not speaker related!)
#23
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How "hard" is it to install 6.5" speakers in the front doors?
I would rather stick with stock sizes (non-hifi) to keep any cutting to a minimum and make it easier to reverse to stock; so the MB Quart 5.25" look good to me (many on eBay) and buy some Infiniti 4x6" for the rears.
Is the sound improvement noticable between the two sizes? My GHL exhaust isn't loud, but it does make it difficult to hear anything through the crap stock system (music & ballgames!). I'm not going audiophile here, but any improvement without spending too much (<$700, including headunit) would be nice.
$300 Headunit-Pioneer from Costco
$300 MB Quart off eBay
$100 4x6" Infiniti rears...
I would rather stick with stock sizes (non-hifi) to keep any cutting to a minimum and make it easier to reverse to stock; so the MB Quart 5.25" look good to me (many on eBay) and buy some Infiniti 4x6" for the rears.
Is the sound improvement noticable between the two sizes? My GHL exhaust isn't loud, but it does make it difficult to hear anything through the crap stock system (music & ballgames!). I'm not going audiophile here, but any improvement without spending too much (<$700, including headunit) would be nice.
$300 Headunit-Pioneer from Costco
$300 MB Quart off eBay
$100 4x6" Infiniti rears...
#24
Originally Posted by RallyJon
It is amazing to me that people put such high end components in a tiny, noisy car. Sure, you want reasonable quality and enough power and efficiency to overcome the engine/road/wind noise. But putting audiophile grade stuff in? C'mon...
If you want sound buy some el cheapo speakers. Good luck with your choice.