993 Daily Driver Annual Expenses?
06-11-2007, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
From another prosepctive, its probably cheaper to maintain a 993 than it is to smoke a pack a day or drink 1 Starbucks Latte each morning.
There are several ways of justifying any expenses if you break it down and really analize it.
I prefer not to spends thousands on a rock from a womans hand. There's thousands of $$$ for Porsche upgrades!!
Ok, thats coming from a guy who will most likely never marry and if I ever do, it will be prenup. Again, potentially huge savings in the long run.
There are several ways of justifying any expenses if you break it down and really analize it.
I prefer not to spends thousands on a rock from a womans hand. There's thousands of $$$ for Porsche upgrades!!
Ok, thats coming from a guy who will most likely never marry and if I ever do, it will be prenup. Again, potentially huge savings in the long run.
06-11-2007, 03:25 PM
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After a year and a half of ownership, I've spent about $125 on tools and supplies, $800 on repairs and maintenance, and $3800 on mods (most of that was the suspension).
06-11-2007, 03:41 PM
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Mine ( 1997 993 Cab) has been a daily driver for more then 5 years and 50K miles. Never let me down, never let me stranded. Now in the shop for the 90K service and a LWF and clutch, replace the plug wires and a few other minor items (to the tune of about $6000). Normally I spend about $800/year on service stuff. +1 on the tires - new rears every year at $600/pair. Try 'em both and pick the one YOU like.
06-11-2007, 03:56 PM
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Hi Blaise,
If I may share my ownership with you... I have owned my 95 since 2001, and the car now has about 110K miles. I commute with it daily, and for its first three years of my ownership, I tracked it fairly regularly (timetrials, no race). One thing you obviously must separate is what do, indeed, constitute normal costs ...upgrading your suspension isn't a "normal" annual expenditure
Another point is what you plan on doing yourself as a wrencher ...not meaning engine drops mind you, but simple stuff like oil changes and belt replacements done DIY-style can save you bundles as labor, especially Porsche labor), can be pricey.
All that said, I must tell you that for the duration I have owned my 95 under the conditions I had mentioned, the car has easily been as reliable and cost-effective to own as my wife's current (2000 with about 125K miles) Honda.
Replaced tires, brakes, belts, and regular oil changes (duh!), plus spark plugs and, and thus far only one battery. "Unexpecteds" included an alternator (though that could have been caused by the battery), and occasional flats. Yeah. That's it! And while this may seem like a short list, I think you will find it fairly routine among other 993 owners, especially of the vastly superior 1995 breed (he,he,he ). Mods, of course, don't apply as "regular" costs. Hope this gives you some insight as to ownership costs. Post a shot when you get yours ...that's a board requirement 
Edward
If I may share my ownership with you... I have owned my 95 since 2001, and the car now has about 110K miles. I commute with it daily, and for its first three years of my ownership, I tracked it fairly regularly (timetrials, no race). One thing you obviously must separate is what do, indeed, constitute normal costs ...upgrading your suspension isn't a "normal" annual expenditure
Another point is what you plan on doing yourself as a wrencher ...not meaning engine drops mind you, but simple stuff like oil changes and belt replacements done DIY-style can save you bundles as labor, especially Porsche labor), can be pricey.All that said, I must tell you that for the duration I have owned my 95 under the conditions I had mentioned, the car has easily been as reliable and cost-effective to own as my wife's current (2000 with about 125K miles) Honda.
Replaced tires, brakes, belts, and regular oil changes (duh!), plus spark plugs and, and thus far only one battery. "Unexpecteds" included an alternator (though that could have been caused by the battery), and occasional flats. Yeah. That's it! And while this may seem like a short list, I think you will find it fairly routine among other 993 owners, especially of the vastly superior 1995 breed (he,he,he
). Mods, of course, don't apply as "regular" costs. Hope this gives you some insight as to ownership costs. Post a shot when you get yours ...that's a board requirement Edward
06-11-2007, 04:04 PM
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Only an oil change for me this past year. Previous year was $2300 parts/labor for a new clutch. Tires are pretty infrequent with no track days and 3K to 5K annual miles. My commute is short, it is my daily driver.
06-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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All,
Thanks so much for the replies. As someone pointed out (and accurately), if annual maintenance was the primary concern, I would indeed buy a Honda Civic. But it isn't. I'd buy a 993 because it is a car with real and proven emotional connection. That said, I am just trying to feel out what is and what is not realistic. These comments indicate to me that regular maintenance on a 993 is not dramatically more than other cars, and it may actually be more reliable, and certainly more valuable, in the bargain. I don't plan on making too many mods right away (slippery slope, I know...)
Thanks again.
Thanks so much for the replies. As someone pointed out (and accurately), if annual maintenance was the primary concern, I would indeed buy a Honda Civic. But it isn't. I'd buy a 993 because it is a car with real and proven emotional connection. That said, I am just trying to feel out what is and what is not realistic. These comments indicate to me that regular maintenance on a 993 is not dramatically more than other cars, and it may actually be more reliable, and certainly more valuable, in the bargain. I don't plan on making too many mods right away (slippery slope, I know...)
Thanks again.
06-12-2007, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 993C4Smontreal
If annual costs are a true concern buy a Honda
Zombie, nothing personal.....but that kind answer is so old and useless....
Baise is simply doing his research. There is nothing wrong with his question, and he doesnt sound concerned. He is simply looking to avoid any surprises.
It reminds me of the mechanic that answers me "..if u need to ask how much, this is not the car for you".
as a matter of fact, I always ask "how much". The answer will not necessarily change my mind, but I like to know.....
again, nothing personal, but wrong assumption.
To answer Blaise's question:
It is hard to put an annual figure on maintenance. it really depends on the condition of the car, and how you treat it....bottom line, the more preventative maintenance, the less repair costs in the future.
As you can tell from most replies, if the car is in good condtion and well maintained by PO, you shouldn't worry about much besides wear and tear items...
one very important X factor to consider is the slope...and as hard as you try to resist...ITS IMPOSSIBLE.
Zombie, nothing personal.....but that kind answer is so old and useless....
Baise is simply doing his research. There is nothing wrong with his question, and he doesnt sound concerned. He is simply looking to avoid any surprises.
It reminds me of the mechanic that answers me "..if u need to ask how much, this is not the car for you".
as a matter of fact, I always ask "how much". The answer will not necessarily change my mind, but I like to know.....
again, nothing personal, but wrong assumption.
To answer Blaise's question:
It is hard to put an annual figure on maintenance. it really depends on the condition of the car, and how you treat it....bottom line, the more preventative maintenance, the less repair costs in the future.
As you can tell from most replies, if the car is in good condtion and well maintained by PO, you shouldn't worry about much besides wear and tear items...
one very important X factor to consider is the slope...and as hard as you try to resist...ITS IMPOSSIBLE.
I love that word ASSUME, you have proven it again to be true.....ZP44
06-13-2007, 05:52 PM
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Hey Blaise,
Lots of +1's to what everyone else said. I am using my 95 C2 as a daily driver and putting on about 100 miles a day round trip. Beyond oil, the only "rude awakening" I've had with respect to regular maintenance was tires. I am thinking I can get 15K on a set of Kumho MXs on the back of my car; guessing about $350 for the pair installed.
Other than that just make sure you plan for a rainy day. My steering rack is puking fluid like it was at a frat party last night. The rack will be $850 or something plus install, then an alignment (and I am sure there will be some "might as well" like putting Bilstein HDs in front).
Dave
Lots of +1's to what everyone else said. I am using my 95 C2 as a daily driver and putting on about 100 miles a day round trip. Beyond oil, the only "rude awakening" I've had with respect to regular maintenance was tires. I am thinking I can get 15K on a set of Kumho MXs on the back of my car; guessing about $350 for the pair installed.
Other than that just make sure you plan for a rainy day. My steering rack is puking fluid like it was at a frat party last night. The rack will be $850 or something plus install, then an alignment (and I am sure there will be some "might as well" like putting Bilstein HDs in front).
Dave
06-14-2007, 08:12 AM
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My '95 has been two other peoples daily driver since it was new. It now has 120,000 on the clock. I put all the maintenance records into a spreadsheet file for easy reference. It has had a grand total of $22,804.78 spent on service and repairs since delivery on Sept.4, 1995. That's slightly less than $2000 per year.
06-14-2007, 10:24 AM
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I put all my expenses after the first 90K miles/6 years into a spreadsheet. About $1.22/mile for everything down to annual reg and insurance. I threw the spreadsheet out because it was no fun to contemplate. Anyway, the biggest items were depreciation and 18" tires. All maintenance done by an idependent mechanic. Oil changes every 7500.
06-14-2007, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
My '95 has been two other peoples daily driver since it was new. It now has 120,000 on the clock. I put all the maintenance records into a spreadsheet file for easy reference. It has had a grand total of $22,804.78 spent on service and repairs since delivery on Sept.4, 1995. That's slightly less than $2000 per year.
Might have to add that all up and see what that comes to. My guess is $20k is a low figure. Mabye I shouldnt add it up. Its like counting your chips at table.
06-14-2007, 11:39 AM
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same here -- I have all service records from the original owner, dealer service that is i.e. she got charged full pop for many many needless maintenance 'heroics' --
Even so, costs averages less than $2K per year.
Even so, costs averages less than $2K per year.
