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From: I should be in TNT for Carnival!
Originally Posted by gr8330
I go back and forth on that question. The M was a second car to my 550i. Now that the 550i is gone it's my only car. The M is an 06 and not a lot of miles. I guess I really can't give you an answer.
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I love my TIP. but I hated the SUV steering wheel it came with. I replaced the steering wheel with a 996 three spoke wheel. I also only shift my car in manual mode and I only use the buttons on the steering wheel to shift. The buttons are bigger and easier to use on the 996 wheel. I can shift without taking my hands off of the wheel. The downside of the tip, I wish it was at least a 5 speed. I have an Acura RSX and I always leave it in automatic mode because it shifts at the right rpms. Another smart thing that Acura did was locate the manual shifter on the left side instead of the right side. On the 993 tip the manual mode is on the right side and occasionally the passenger will knock it into neutral.
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From: I should be in TNT for Carnival!
Originally Posted by fetus
On the 993 tip the manual mode is on the right side and occasionally the passenger will knock it into neutral.
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Bought my Tip because (1) hated the 911 SC tranny I tolerated for 20 yeqrs, and (2) loved the look of the 993 Cab I purchased. In retrospect, the Tip is great in metro California. I empathize with those who like the "driving experience" of a 6-speed, but in this area one has to make a concerted effort and actually go somewhere to drive. Rest of the time I simply motor around in traffic. Get my "driving" fix on a CBR 600RR.
Only real downside(s) of the 993 Tip is a sluggish 2nd gear start in auto mode and the lack of at least one other gear. On the other hand, 2nd and 3rd gear after a start are pretty responsive. Wish the Cay 6-speed were in the 993.
All of the above IM(old)HO.
Only real downside(s) of the 993 Tip is a sluggish 2nd gear start in auto mode and the lack of at least one other gear. On the other hand, 2nd and 3rd gear after a start are pretty responsive. Wish the Cay 6-speed were in the 993.
All of the above IM(old)HO.
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From: Agoura Hills (Los Angeles) California
Originally Posted by Raptor
Only real downside(s) of the 993 Tip is a sluggish 2nd gear start in auto mode and the lack of at least one other gear. (old)HO.
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Originally Posted by Chuck W.
Keep it in "3" in auto mode and you'll start off in first gear.
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Excuse my ignorance, but from what I've seen, the tip is still a fluid driven, torque converter Automatic tranny, is it not? If so, then its still worlds different than the DSG/SMG cars.
I've driven a tip 993, and two MB slushboxes with the shift-it-yourself options. While it is a pretty decent system, I don't think I could tolerate it in a 993.
A 993 is all about the purity of the experience. If you want to daily drive one in traffic, thats fine, i can see the appeal. However, I want to be one with a car like this. The less electronics the better. The new trannys may shift faster than I can, but if all you want is speed, a 282bhp car with 3000lbs to lug around is not where you go to find it.
There is something about mastering the shifting that is as beautiful as the car itself. Banging perfect blip downshifts on a tip requires only the ability to slap a stick around. But to do it with a clutch and a manual gearbox is a thing of beauty.
Some cars are probably better with a tip/SMG style tranny. I do not believe that a 993 is one of them.
I've driven a tip 993, and two MB slushboxes with the shift-it-yourself options. While it is a pretty decent system, I don't think I could tolerate it in a 993.
A 993 is all about the purity of the experience. If you want to daily drive one in traffic, thats fine, i can see the appeal. However, I want to be one with a car like this. The less electronics the better. The new trannys may shift faster than I can, but if all you want is speed, a 282bhp car with 3000lbs to lug around is not where you go to find it.
There is something about mastering the shifting that is as beautiful as the car itself. Banging perfect blip downshifts on a tip requires only the ability to slap a stick around. But to do it with a clutch and a manual gearbox is a thing of beauty.
Some cars are probably better with a tip/SMG style tranny. I do not believe that a 993 is one of them.
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Originally Posted by gr8330
If you do whats it like, slow, a dog, a thing of beauty...slow to shift, shifts very quick, would you buy it again
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[QUOTE=Quadcammer]Banging perfect blip downshifts on a tip requires only the ability to slap a stick around. But to do it with a clutch and a manual gearbox is a thing of beauty. QUOTE]
Agree with a lot of what you have said, but not the above. If you change down and there is a large increas in revs as a result the car is very much unsettled. The Tip does not auto blip. You have to and can do this yourself with a Tip and this requires good timing and good right foot judgement and application. OK yes you do not have to co-ordinate this with a clutch but there is still much to get right. As a manual driver I think you can appreciate the benefits of settling a car through doing this if you are really moving and are selecting a lower gear just before a corner.
Agree with a lot of what you have said, but not the above. If you change down and there is a large increas in revs as a result the car is very much unsettled. The Tip does not auto blip. You have to and can do this yourself with a Tip and this requires good timing and good right foot judgement and application. OK yes you do not have to co-ordinate this with a clutch but there is still much to get right. As a manual driver I think you can appreciate the benefits of settling a car through doing this if you are really moving and are selecting a lower gear just before a corner.
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Wow..low miles, very clean.... The owner must have been talking about a different car than I looked at today. Only two tires were the same brand, very dirty inside and outside, maint records were very spotty. I know I should have driven the car to see how the trans felt but if the car isn't a possible purchase than why waste both of our time. Still looking 
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Chuck: Thanks for the (pardon the expression) tip on auto-3 starts in first gear. I was feeling pretty smug because I'm comfortable with one gear throttle downshifts (practice on the Cayenne). For those unfamiliar, simply blipping the throttle can downshift a tip one gear (4 to 3, 3 to 2, 2 to 1). Heavier blip will drop it two gears from 4th to 2nd.