JIC Install Issues, RS Controll Arm Help
#1
Drifting
Thread Starter
JIC Install Issues, RS Controll Arm Help
I am finally installing my JIC shocks and ran into some issues during the install. The shop doing the work found the front tie rod bushings are bad, the rear upper controll arms are bad and the right rear toe is bad.
Also a subframe bushing that is bad too. They said it was leaking....maybe that is power steering fluid from a recent flush I did.... I don't think they can leak.
I would like to replace with RS parts for the stiffer bushings since this is going to be more of a track car then anything else. The JIC spring rates are 10k/14k. If RS parts are not painfully expensive or hard to get compared to stock parts I would rather go the RS route.
I ran across this list of RS supsension parts and I am trying to figure out what I can use now to fix my immediate problem of bad tie rods and controll arms and still keep my stock wheel hubs. No EVO uprights or RS subframe arches. Just RS tie rods and controll arms.
Will the RS tie rods mate up to normal wheel hubs. Or do the RS tie rods only work with the EVO uprights. From searches I am not sure if the EVO upright / tie rod combination is also called RS as well.
Is there an adjustable toe arm from Porsche or do you have to go ERP for this. Is it even necessary.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Here are the RS specific parts
Front
993.341.111.21 Side member /L
993.341.112.21 Side member /R
993.341.017.80 A arm /L
993.341.018.80 A arm /R
993.341.157.81 Wheel carrier /L
993.341.158.81 Wheel carrier /R
993.347.031.81 Tie rod x2
964.343.042.00 cross strut
993.343.707.81 Sway bar
964.343.792.06 Sway bar mount x2
993.343.069.80 Drop link /L
993.343.070.80 Drop link /R
999.084.627.09 Lock nut M10 x2
Rear
993.331.051.80 Side panel /L
993.331.052.80 Side panel /R
993.331.045.70 Kinematic Control Arm x2
993.331.041.81 A arm /L
993.331.042.81 A arm /R
993.331.047.70 Camber control arm 96- x2
993.331.217.80 Eccentric screw x2
993.331.219.80 Eccentric washer x2
993.333.707.81 Sway bar
993.333.073.80 Drop link x2
993.331.131.05 Turbo Subframe arch L&R x2
993.331.131.06 Subframe arch L&R x2
In some cases I listed updated stock parts and/or alternate parts
Also a subframe bushing that is bad too. They said it was leaking....maybe that is power steering fluid from a recent flush I did.... I don't think they can leak.
I would like to replace with RS parts for the stiffer bushings since this is going to be more of a track car then anything else. The JIC spring rates are 10k/14k. If RS parts are not painfully expensive or hard to get compared to stock parts I would rather go the RS route.
I ran across this list of RS supsension parts and I am trying to figure out what I can use now to fix my immediate problem of bad tie rods and controll arms and still keep my stock wheel hubs. No EVO uprights or RS subframe arches. Just RS tie rods and controll arms.
Will the RS tie rods mate up to normal wheel hubs. Or do the RS tie rods only work with the EVO uprights. From searches I am not sure if the EVO upright / tie rod combination is also called RS as well.
Is there an adjustable toe arm from Porsche or do you have to go ERP for this. Is it even necessary.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Here are the RS specific parts
Front
993.341.111.21 Side member /L
993.341.112.21 Side member /R
993.341.017.80 A arm /L
993.341.018.80 A arm /R
993.341.157.81 Wheel carrier /L
993.341.158.81 Wheel carrier /R
993.347.031.81 Tie rod x2
964.343.042.00 cross strut
993.343.707.81 Sway bar
964.343.792.06 Sway bar mount x2
993.343.069.80 Drop link /L
993.343.070.80 Drop link /R
999.084.627.09 Lock nut M10 x2
Rear
993.331.051.80 Side panel /L
993.331.052.80 Side panel /R
993.331.045.70 Kinematic Control Arm x2
993.331.041.81 A arm /L
993.331.042.81 A arm /R
993.331.047.70 Camber control arm 96- x2
993.331.217.80 Eccentric screw x2
993.331.219.80 Eccentric washer x2
993.333.707.81 Sway bar
993.333.073.80 Drop link x2
993.331.131.05 Turbo Subframe arch L&R x2
993.331.131.06 Subframe arch L&R x2
In some cases I listed updated stock parts and/or alternate parts
Last edited by jaholmes; 06-06-2007 at 09:10 AM.
#2
Originally Posted by jaholmes
If RS parts are not painfully expensive or hard to get compared to stock parts I would rather go the RS route.
Originally Posted by jaholmes
Will the RS tie rods mate up to normal wheel hubs. Or do the RS tie rods only work with the EVO uprights. From searches I am not sure if the EVO upright / tie rod combination is also called RS as well.
#3
Rennlist Member
Rear subframe bushings can't leak, since they're just rubber. They can crack, though. I replaced mine with ERP solid mounts for the heck of it.
I'm seriously suspicious of any shop who says rear subframe bushings are "leaking." IMHO that automatically disqualifies them from doing any of the work you're considering. They clearly don't know 911's.
I'm seriously suspicious of any shop who says rear subframe bushings are "leaking." IMHO that automatically disqualifies them from doing any of the work you're considering. They clearly don't know 911's.
#4
Drifting
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
Rear subframe bushings can't leak, since they're just rubber. They can crack, though. I replaced mine with ERP solid mounts for the heck of it.
I'm seriously suspicious of any shop who says rear subframe bushings are "leaking." IMHO that automatically disqualifies them from doing any of the work you're considering. They clearly don't know 911's.
I'm seriously suspicious of any shop who says rear subframe bushings are "leaking." IMHO that automatically disqualifies them from doing any of the work you're considering. They clearly don't know 911's.
However, ERP mounts are an option but I think I will pass for now and focus on getting the tie rods replaced.
#5
Drifting
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
RS tie rods only mate to RS/Evo uprights(RS & EVO uprights are the same parts)
Ahem.....Thanks for the clarification on the RS tie rod parts. I guess I need to stick with normal tie rods for now.