Best Street Shock Set up for me. What would you do if you were me?
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Overkill? Blashphemer! There is no such thing as overkill!
Remember the slope is steep and slippery!!!
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Originally Posted by Nickels
Are the softer ROW M033 springs the same as the stock stiffness and are they a suitable alternative for a "Driver" car? I was curious because they're seldom mentioned. I was wondering if anyone who has these springs can weigh in with their opinion also.
I wanted to lower my car a bit but keep the ride as smooth as possible since the car is a daily driver.
It will probably be several months before i get around to installing the new suspension but I can let you know how the ride is once it's installed.
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Originally Posted by Nickels
Are the softer ROW M033 springs the same as the stock stiffness and are they a suitable alternative for a "Driver" car? I was curious because they're seldom mentioned. I was wondering if anyone who has these springs can weigh in with their opinion also.
I was on M033 and now on M030 springs and M030 shocks.
M030 is a tiny tad firmer,
a difference in cornering, the car sways slightly less, on hard cornering.
AND the big difference in my own opinion is hard emergency braking.
the roll is less and you can stop the car with more assurance.
But this was due to the shot shocks I am 1000% sure
On bumpy roads, the kicking in the back is as much.
Since my new shocks are M030, these are expensive and everybody on RL say
they will be shot at 30000 miles. We have to wait to see how the Bils will do after 30000 miles.
My opinion frankly, go for the HD's and M030 if the roads are good where you are.
I think the price is best, even if you're decision is not money oriented.
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I'd look into sway bars at the same time. I went with bilstein HD/H&R but think the sway bars made the biggest difference in terms of body roll and eliminating understeer.
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95 C4 993,
Where are you going to get the work done? I have been looking for a good shop.
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www.airpowerracing.com Les is the owner
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Originally Posted by 95 C4 993
I have read (and searched) about HD's and PSS9's, H&R, B&G, Eibach and everyone's opinion. I will put Bilstein combination of something eventually.
I dont track but may do a DE event some time. If it lowers, so be it. Either way, it doesnt matter to me.
I figured after 58,800 miles, my shocks probably need replacing at some point and since Im having a my 60k tune in a few months, I might as well do the shock set up.
I dont work on anything when it comes to cars. Dont care to, dont want to, have no desire to ever do it.
I am a "spirited" driver if that makes any difference.
Bilstein shocks only, stock springs? Different springs?
Bilstein HD Shocks Only, stock springs? Different springs?
PSS9 Kit? Who makes those springs in the kit? Bilstein?
Why HD or PSS9? Why PSS9 over HD? How easy are PSS9's to adjust? Can a car idiot like me make adjustments on PSS9's without having to remove wheels?
I dont track but may do a DE event some time. If it lowers, so be it. Either way, it doesnt matter to me.
I figured after 58,800 miles, my shocks probably need replacing at some point and since Im having a my 60k tune in a few months, I might as well do the shock set up.
I dont work on anything when it comes to cars. Dont care to, dont want to, have no desire to ever do it.
I am a "spirited" driver if that makes any difference.
Bilstein shocks only, stock springs? Different springs?
Bilstein HD Shocks Only, stock springs? Different springs?
PSS9 Kit? Who makes those springs in the kit? Bilstein?
Why HD or PSS9? Why PSS9 over HD? How easy are PSS9's to adjust? Can a car idiot like me make adjustments on PSS9's without having to remove wheels?
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I would and DID opt for the PSS9's over the HD route. I had the MO30 RoW springs already. For the extra few hundred $$$$ its worth it even if you don't track the car. In the end you'll have (allegedly a better value per our MOM friend above -who by the way needs to have someone contact me if they are interested in selling and installing an aftermarket muffler system on my friend's 997 - called 2x and PM'd you guys 2x and no response....wasn't that way when Chris was there
yo whats up wit dat? Tell Tim Chip is tired of his 997 sounding like a Honda Accord and will pay $$$ to change that....but I digress)
You go PSS9's you have a better system, presumably better resale value of your car if ever, you can sell your M030's to get some of the difference in cost back, you don't have to store unused springs in your garage which will make the wife happy, and assuming you sell to another RL'er you do a good deed by helping someone here get their car down from the high altitude of US ride height!
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You go PSS9's you have a better system, presumably better resale value of your car if ever, you can sell your M030's to get some of the difference in cost back, you don't have to store unused springs in your garage which will make the wife happy, and assuming you sell to another RL'er you do a good deed by helping someone here get their car down from the high altitude of US ride height!
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I'm in the same boat, I was thinking the ROW Springs with the Bil shocks, several people recomended this set-up for me (I don't track at all); and I thought it was a great choice; but then they suggested I get the PSS9 because I have a 993TT. Now I am more confused and still trying to decide what to get, right now I am thiking PSS9 because they are telling me this is a better set-up for a TT even if I do not track.
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I too am in a similar situation and I've decided to go with the ROW M030 with Biltstein HDs.
It seems, taking all the discussions about this topic into consideration, that this set-up is what Porsche "should" have put on our cars.
If you (like me) will never set foot on a track, the PSS9s seem like overkill. Sure, they would be nice, and perhaps "justifiable" on a TT or S, but there are other ways to spend that money to provide an actual "improvement" versus making the slippery slope steeper, and the wallet more empty.
Don't forget Viper Bob has a great combo-setup-deal that includes new front drop-links, and f/r sways. If this seems like a shameless plug, it is!
Bob has been a wealth of information, and tireless in his patient explanations to an auto-illiterate such as myself.
It seems, taking all the discussions about this topic into consideration, that this set-up is what Porsche "should" have put on our cars.
If you (like me) will never set foot on a track, the PSS9s seem like overkill. Sure, they would be nice, and perhaps "justifiable" on a TT or S, but there are other ways to spend that money to provide an actual "improvement" versus making the slippery slope steeper, and the wallet more empty.
Don't forget Viper Bob has a great combo-setup-deal that includes new front drop-links, and f/r sways. If this seems like a shameless plug, it is!
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If you will be tracking your car AT ALL I highly reccommend you consider changing sway bars when you do the shocks..
I installed the HDs and H&R springs and found that on the track the car pushed TERRIBLY. That was all solved by putting on bigger TRG adjustable sway bars: (F) 25mm (R)22mm with RS Drop links. The bigger (adjustable) sway bars completely transformed the handling of the car to perfectly neutral on the track and I LOVE it.. I do have to live with a few extra squeaks/noise from the sways due to the teflon bushings (stiffer than the stock rubber type). Also the larger sways I opted for make the ride a little harsher than stock sways.. For my mix of street/track, however, I LOVE the TRG sways as the street ride is still quite good.. I kept the stock sways in case I ever sell the car and want to go back to a softer ride. If you do not track your car, do not worry about the sways or the PSS9 option as its overkill IMHO.
I installed the HDs and H&R springs and found that on the track the car pushed TERRIBLY. That was all solved by putting on bigger TRG adjustable sway bars: (F) 25mm (R)22mm with RS Drop links. The bigger (adjustable) sway bars completely transformed the handling of the car to perfectly neutral on the track and I LOVE it.. I do have to live with a few extra squeaks/noise from the sways due to the teflon bushings (stiffer than the stock rubber type). Also the larger sways I opted for make the ride a little harsher than stock sways.. For my mix of street/track, however, I LOVE the TRG sways as the street ride is still quite good.. I kept the stock sways in case I ever sell the car and want to go back to a softer ride. If you do not track your car, do not worry about the sways or the PSS9 option as its overkill IMHO.