Race car build
11-06-2006, 04:00 PM
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Just how the hell is a C2S more thrilling to drive than a C2?
Oh sure, I bet it's just a total blast to be scooting along and see that CEL light pop up! Whoo Hoo!
Screw the C2S... they're over rated.
Oh sure, I bet it's just a total blast to be scooting along and see that CEL light pop up! Whoo Hoo!
Screw the C2S... they're over rated.
11-06-2006, 04:04 PM
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..."True, You could always put GT2 flares on them to make it handle larger tires."
Of course you're right Greg, but it could take years for a novice lap day driver to get to the point of needing larger tires on their 993. I like many here have fitted 275 R 235 F "R-compound" tires to my stock 17" wheels for track days, and that's a lot of rubber for my C2
Of course you're right Greg, but it could take years for a novice lap day driver to get to the point of needing larger tires on their 993. I like many here have fitted 275 R 235 F "R-compound" tires to my stock 17" wheels for track days, and that's a lot of rubber for my C2
11-06-2006, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spuds993
..."True, You could always put GT2 flares on them to make it handle larger tires."
Of course you're right Greg, but it could take years for a novice lap day driver to get to the point of needing larger tires on their 993. I like many here have fitted 275 R 235 F "R-compound" tires to my stock 17" wheels for track days, and that's a lot of rubber for my C2
Of course you're right Greg, but it could take years for a novice lap day driver to get to the point of needing larger tires on their 993. I like many here have fitted 275 R 235 F "R-compound" tires to my stock 17" wheels for track days, and that's a lot of rubber for my C2
So the short answer is to get a 993 NB that you can progress as you progress.
11-06-2006, 04:34 PM
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Check this bad boy out - right up your alley...ebay item # 130044716122
That might even be Glen's old car - seems he did this once - looks pretty nice
That might even be Glen's old car - seems he did this once - looks pretty nice
11-06-2006, 04:51 PM
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I'm of the camp to dip a toe gently in the water, and see if its for you. Take your stock 993 anything to an autocross. Then try a half a dozen DE events, being careful to never get over your head. Then sit back and think about what you are doing and where you'd like to go. Then make a decision about a track car. IMHO.
11-06-2006, 08:07 PM
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11-07-2006, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Spuds993
I would reccomend looking at some of the threads here posted by Don Plumley. He's done a great job of documenting his building of a dedicated 993 track car from a street car. Lots of details on what and how he's done to the car. I've seen the car personally and the upgrades are top notch.
I would also start with a 993, reliable, fast, and safe.
That's my $.02, and whatever you do get your kids involved, my girls love going to the race track with my wife and I.
I would also start with a 993, reliable, fast, and safe.
That's my $.02, and whatever you do get your kids involved, my girls love going to the race track with my wife and I.
I agree with the dipping your toe intro. Before I started down that path, I had an 87 Carrera that was rock stock except for stiffer shocks. I AX'd it a few times to learn car control, liked doing it but didn't like the drive/stand around ratio. Then I took it to four track days last November. When the grin would not subside and I started sliding in my stock seat (unsafe), I decided to take a running leap down the slippery slope, but at least keep the car street legal for now. I felt that cutting up a beautiful, stock, low-mile G50 Carrera was a crime, so I sold it and picked up a salvage title 993 to turn into a track beast. It is really liberating to have a car that I don't care if it gets rock chips, etc.
The best advice I can give is: 1) Be safe. 2) get great instruction; 3) get lots of seat time; 4) then plan your attack. Then the #1, #2, #3, ....#n priority is safety. Don't cheap out on the safety equipment - FIA certified seats, FIA harnesses (properly mounted which means drilling holes!), Top quality roll bar, SA05 Helmet, HANS Device, Race quality fire extingusher (not from Home Depot), mounted where you can reach it when strapped in the harness. The other go fast bits, suspension, etc. all take a back seat to safety equipment. Period.
The cheapest track car is someone elses. But since I had the time and like to build things, I got the best of both worlds, I built a track car and get to drive it on the track!
Enjoy!
11-07-2006, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by tar6day
This one could be the bargain you are looking for with all the bells installed.
Streetable too... track time is addictive. Be very certain you want to dip your toe coz the soul will follow.
good luck
11-07-2006, 11:12 AM
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I think the reason for the wide variance in suggestions is that it's not clear exactly what you want. I think when you narrow that down, opinions will converge. For the most safety, consider a slow-ish front engine car like 944. For more style & speed, a 993 or 964 non-turbo. For big thrills and some more risk, a 993TT/GT2.
If you're going to race it (PCA club racing, NASA, etc) most would recommend buying a pre-built car. But if you have the money, time, and inclination, it can be fun and a great learning experience to DIY.
Just my $.02
If you're going to race it (PCA club racing, NASA, etc) most would recommend buying a pre-built car. But if you have the money, time, and inclination, it can be fun and a great learning experience to DIY.
Just my $.02
11-07-2006, 12:43 PM
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IMO it all comes down to 3 things
1)Dedicated track or dual use
2)Buy or Build
3)$$$
dedicated track buy ->964RS or Cup, 993RS or Cup, 996Cup, 997GT3RS
dual use buy ->GT3, DoT certified 964RS/993RS, 997GT3RS
dual use build ->964 or 993 coupe then go shopping
I went the last route partly because for street legal DoT is a PIA and partly because bulding to your spec is a lot of fun.
1)Dedicated track or dual use
2)Buy or Build
3)$$$
dedicated track buy ->964RS or Cup, 993RS or Cup, 996Cup, 997GT3RS
dual use buy ->GT3, DoT certified 964RS/993RS, 997GT3RS
dual use build ->964 or 993 coupe then go shopping
I went the last route partly because for street legal DoT is a PIA and partly because bulding to your spec is a lot of fun.
11-07-2006, 09:40 PM
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well, this thread proves one thing...pcar people are a passionate bunch!! thx so much ffor all the great ideas. right now, i'm gonna go slow, take a few weeks and do a ton of research and figure out what makes most sense.
thx so much.
regards,
steve
thx so much.
regards,
steve
