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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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Question Jacking rear with engine tray in place?

Hmm, catch-22 here. Read the p-car.com directions on jacking but there seems to be a hole in the logic: when the engine cover is in place (I know, I know) how do you get jackstands under the rear end? Seems like on the only place to jack is where the jackstands go.

It's funny, reading the archives where others have asked the same question, and inevitably in every thread someone posts, "then jack it up by the engine."

Since apparently Porsche themselves say not to lift by the engine (safe though it may be), I'm surprised there isn't some official Porsche methodology for getting the car jacked up without using the engine.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I've never been able to figure out how to jack the 993 up on four stands with the engine cover in place.

At least the older 911s had the outriggers.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
I'm surprised there isn't some official Porsche methodology for getting the car jacked up without using the engine.
Actually Jon, there is. Its in the owners manual under the dealer locator section
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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LOL. OK, then how about this: weld a mini "forklift" attachment that attaches to a floorjack and slides under and on either side of the rear tire? Quick--where's the number of my patent attorney...

More realistically, there has to be another point on or around the rear suspension that can carry the weight of that corner, right? A simpler solution would be to find that point and fab an appropriate jackpad to fit it securely if needed.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyJon
where's the number of my patent attorney...
You rang?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Jack it up by the engine.


Sorry. You asked for it.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Catch 22 indeed. Diabolical plan on the factory's part to get you into a dealer,

For the life of me, I can't remember how I got my coupe's tray off.

(Psst... Jon. The Other Eric doesn't know it, but we installed an old engine tray at Road America Labor Day weekend when he wasn't looking. We have a pool on how long it will be before he notices it.)
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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What if you lift using the forward jacking point (behind front wheel)? Would the whole side lift up, or would the front of the car lift? My thinking is that you would get the whole side of the car up high enough to place a jackstand under the rear jack point on the same side, then repeat for the other side of the car. Then lift the front with a wide board under the front pan.

Just thinking outloud here, never tried it before. I use the engine, with a hockey puck on the jack (per p-car.com).
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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When lifted at the rear point the whole side goes up. Never tried lifting at the front one.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Works for me as well, lifting from the front jacking point is less productive, but the rear lifts the entire side of the car allowing for a jackstand to be placed with the proper plate under the front jacking point. But, then again that was before I removed the engine tray and life has become much easier.
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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To get the entire car on stands, I:

1. jack one side up from one of the rear jack points
2. put a stand under the front jack point
3. repeat on other side
4. If you haven't removed the engine cover, remove cover (Seriously though: it should be removeable with the car on the ground, since it uses 5 locking bolts I believe - you should be able to reach two of them where the rear tires are easily enough. That being said, haven't done that in a while )
5. Lift the rear from the engine - put the jack right under where the bolt is for the oil drain
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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I always lift the car by placing the jack in rear wheel jack point. The whole side of the car lifts off. I can then place the front and rear on jack stands, and do the same with the other side.....

Then...I was able to remove the tray.
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Originally Posted by cabrio993
I always lift the car by placing the jack in rear wheel jack point. The whole side of the car lifts off. I can then place the front and rear on jack stands,
Where do you place the rear jack stand?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in Chi
Catch 22 indeed. Diabolical plan on the factory's part to get you into a dealer,

For the life of me, I can't remember how I got my coupe's tray off.

(Psst... Jon. The Other Eric doesn't know it, but we installed an old engine tray at Road America Labor Day weekend when he wasn't looking. We have a pool on how long it will be before he notices it.)

At last, the REAL reason they put the tray on!
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