The need for 300bhp...
09-13-2006, 12:49 PM
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300 is just a number. My old '89 carrera had "only" 216 hp and it was a blast to drive. When I got my 993 I was in hog heaven with 282hp.
Chances are very high that most 993 owners won't come close to tapping even a fraction of their car's capabilities.
Chances are very high that most 993 owners won't come close to tapping even a fraction of their car's capabilities.
09-13-2006, 12:59 PM
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As I said, it supposedly increases by 50 bhp which is not confirmed, can't know without a dyno test. As for the dual exhaust, sorry, I was thinking about my 964. My 964 came with a Welmeister computer chip installed at 50k miles. It could be my imagination but my 964 seems more gutsy than my 993 but the 964 has a louder sports muffler and stiffer suspension so it may just feel that way. I agree that an additional 10bhp is probably the top end with a chip.
09-13-2006, 01:24 PM
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300bhp, not exactly setting the world on fire. Especially when it has to push 3000lbs around. The only way to go for serious power is Turbo (400-plus 
), or possibly 9Meister NA package for 350bhp.
), or possibly 9Meister NA package for 350bhp.
09-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by simpateko
cost me $30,000 to go from 250 hp to 315 hp in my 1993 964 rs america.
real horsepower is real expensive!
i wont be doing that again.
jeff
real horsepower is real expensive!
i wont be doing that again.
jeff
EOT right there, baby.
09-13-2006, 01:48 PM
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Cheap power, a fried of mine recently got one and can't stop grinning 
Sport Miata will be around $26 MSRP plus $3600 for the MazdaSpeed body kit plus another $5k for the supercharger. The HP will be around 265 to 280 HP depending on the boost. That is a lot for a 2500lb car.
Sport Miata will be around $26 MSRP plus $3600 for the MazdaSpeed body kit plus another $5k for the supercharger. The HP will be around 265 to 280 HP depending on the boost. That is a lot for a 2500lb car.
09-13-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mborkow
would you really be able to notice 15 more hp at peak (i doubt i would...)?
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09-13-2006, 02:20 PM
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I put on an open airbox and Fabspeed Cup exhaust and immediately felt the car go from 282hp to 283hp. I'm waiting until I adjust to that increase before any chip goes in!
09-13-2006, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by last toy
As I said, it supposedly increases by 50 bhp which is not confirmed, can't know without a dyno test. As for the dual exhaust, sorry, I was thinking about my 964. My 964 came with a Welmeister computer chip installed at 50k miles. It could be my imagination but my 964 seems more gutsy than my 993 but the 964 has a louder sports muffler and stiffer suspension so it may just feel that way. I agree that an additional 10bhp is probably the top end with a chip.
With all due respect, by changing only the chip, you don't need to dyno it to confirm 50 hp increase, it simply is impossible.
09-13-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 98993c2s
That's a pretty accurate buttometer!
09-13-2006, 04:39 PM
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Finn, I agree, but I can get a dyno run on my engne for about $80 thru a local club. I'm more interested to know what the bhp output is for my engine with 60 k miles. I'd be happy to know it is still at spec. Before I spend lots of money to get more significant power on my NA 964, I would opt for a 964 turbo.
09-13-2006, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bull
I put on an open airbox and Fabspeed Cup exhaust and immediately felt the car go from 282hp to 283hp. I'm waiting until I adjust to that increase before any chip goes in!
That's sensitive! How often do you calibrate it and, more importantly, who does it? Wouldn't think it work to be entrusted to just anyone. Maybe a DIY? I'll search the archives.
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09-13-2006, 04:45 PM
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If anyone is going to be at NNJR PCA Porscherama at Pocono this weekend, PowerTech will have their dyno set-up in the garages, as they did last year. I think the price is still $100.