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Old 08-16-2006, 05:58 PM
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Question SS Brake Lines - DIY?

Is the installation of stainless steel brakelines a relatively straight forward DIY or not. If so, does anyone have a DIY they can point me to.

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Dave,
As long as you get the right lines, it's a fairly straightforward exercise. Some of the factory fittings may be difficult to get undone, but that's what Vice Grips are for .

I went through a nightmare a few weeks ago finding lines that would fit my early-build '95. I ordered from Paragon, Goodridge, Stop Tech, and again from Paragon. All of the lines had one or more issues. Finally, I took matters in my own hands and had two companies make lines that fit. Of the two, I chose the ones I liked best and sold the other. The two companies that were willing to work with me directly are Crown Performance and Techna-Fit. Both companies manufacture their own lines and were a pleasure to work with. Depending on when you buy from Paragon, you may receive either Crown or Techna-Fit lines. But they will not fit for the very early cars....

Send me a PM if you want more info. I am happy with the end result and have convinced myself that the brake pedal feels better now!

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Or you could just replace the lines with OEM Porsche lines and call it a day.

Somewhere, a 993 clock is cowering in fear of its new life...
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Originally Posted by Mark in Baltimore
Somewhere, a 993 clock is cowering in fear of its new life...
And I know just the person who plans to place it there!

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Who? Saul?

You'll get yours...
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OK gang....back to our program..

how about the Weltmeister lines on Pelican??? My dealer wants $400+ to install SS lines on a 97 C2....I'm thinkin'....no. The Weltmeisters are $109...I've got 4 hours to mess around with this...will be doing my oen pads and brake bleeding...want to do this as well.
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There is a DIY for brake line change on the 964 here that might be useful.

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Is there a bleeding issue w/ ABS on these cars after replacing the brake lines? On my '88 and on the 968 it's a no brainer.

Bill W.
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Is there a bleeding issue w/ ABS on these cars after replacing the brake lines? On my '88 and on the 968 it's a no brainer.
If you change your brake fluid regularly (every 2 years), and sometimes brake hard enough to cycle the ABS, there's no real reason to bleed the ABS unit unless you are replacing it. If so you need the PSt or hammer. If you just bought a car from someone who hardly ever changed the brake fluid and it looks black, then maybe i'd take it to a good Porsche shop and have them bleed the ABS system too.

The only issue with 993s and brake bleeding is if you have a C4 or Turbo that has hydroboost, then there is a special procedure to change the brake fluid/bleed brakes that is outlined in the factory manual.

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Originally Posted by Droops83
If you change your brake fluid regularly (every 2 years), and sometimes brake hard enough to cycle the ABS, there's no real reason to bleed the ABS unit unless you are replacing it. If so you need the PSt or hammer. If you just bought a car from someone who hardly ever changed the brake fluid and it looks black, then maybe i'd take it to a good Porsche shop and have them bleed the ABS system too.

The only issue with 993s and brake bleeding is if you have a C4 or Turbo that has hydroboost, then there is a special procedure to change the brake fluid/bleed brakes that is outlined in the factory manual.

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Chris,
are you guys working on more 993's?
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Oh, so the ABS has a seperate bleed process? My big concern was whether you could get air into the ABS when replacing the lines at the caliper and how much of an issue this would be.

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Bill,
You will certainly lose some fluid as you undo the old line and attempt to quickly thread the new line in place. Start off with a full reservoir and you'll be fine. I see no way of ingesting air into the ABS setup this way. I did one corner at a time and made sure to keep the reservoir full as I moved from one corner to the next. Then it's a normal bleed process (Motive). The hardest part was undoing some of the inboard fitting clips, as they tend to rotate out of the way.

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Thanks Andraes, that's exactly what I was hoping for and planning on doing. I've used a Motive for a few years now and love it. I usually don't put fluid in the Motive inself instead I use it as the pressure source but after going round and round with problems trying to bleed my 968 clutch system (VERY small portion of reservoir) I may go back to putting fluid in the Motive.

Thanks again,
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Bill,
I too only use the Motive for pressure. Topping off the reservoir between corners is really not that much of a hassle, and allows the Motive cannister to remain clean. No problems to date and I've used it at least 5 times like this.

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