shattergard

Hello

I was wondering if the enclosed brake lines are of good quality ? The price seems to be sort of cheap.

Thanks very much

Ebay Item number: 8035322166


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-...QQcmdZViewItem

AOW162435

Jordan,
Techna-Fit makes a very nice stainless line. The ones pictured in that auction are not for a 993 though...

On the other hand, the ones I am selling are: Techna-Fit lines

The price given in your auction is what you would pay if ordering through Paragon, or from Techna-Fit directly. Buy mine and save a bunch!

Andreas

chris walrod

Bonehead Performance has a few mis-conceptions about these lines. They wont make you stop any faster, nor did Porsche offer a 993 in 1999.. But I am being a little picky here, of course.

Nothing wrong with the factory lines. Just renew your lines with the standard lines, no worries

Dan V

I decided to dig up this old thread rather than start my own. I'm trying to decide which lines to order. I called our friends at the famous dealer in OR, and was told $195 for a set of 4 OE Porsche lines. I checked Vertex's site and they have "Brake Lines Stainless Steel - Complete set of 4": $54. Has anyone here bought these? Any reason to go with rubber OE if the SS set is only $54? TIA

heath ATL

I can't remember where I read it (either on Rennlist or in one of Streather's books), but I seem to recall an issue about if you change to stainless steel lines you need to replace them on a somewhat regular basis because unlike the rubber lines there is no advance warning that they are ready to fail (unlike the rubber lines that would show cracking, etc.). I think I'm remembering that correctly. Not sure how often the lines would need to be replaced, so I'm not sure if it's that big of an issue or not. I'd be interested in hearing from others on whether that is a concern or not.

Slow Guy

Paragon Products sells a very high quality DOT approved set for apx. $65. I have a set I will be installing tomorrow. Nothing against (new) OE rubber lines but for the price diff. I'll go w/ the SS, and replace them in apx 6 - 7 yrs. too.

AOW162435

What I went through for my '95:

Brake line saga

In my photos, Paragon lines #1 were made by Crown, and Paragon lines #2 (black plastic collars) were made by Techna-Fit.

In the end, I had custom lines made by two California-based companies, Techna-Fit & Crown Performance. Both turned out great. Of the two, I chose to install the Crown lines.

Andreas

Slow Guy

Andreas, you didn't close out your other thread with the final outcome. What did they come up with?

Thanks for pointing this out though, I'll check mine before I pull the old ones off.

ZombiePorsche44

Unless you're track racing, you probably wouldn't even feel the difference between the two and there have been threads in the past from very knowlegeable individuals advising against using SS lines on 993's. DO A COMPLETE SEARCH

My mechanics (Black Forest) are also in agreement that OEM rubber are best for the street and aggressive driving.

ZP44

Slow Guy

I installed the Paragon Prod. SS DOT lines today (3 of them at least) and all the fittings matched up well, no issues. One inner went from a 17mm fitting to a 18mm fitting (for the wrench size) but it made no diff. on the fittament.

As for the 4th line (drivers side rear) a gorilla must have installed that one, even with flare wrenches it still rounded the fitting. ** ALWAYS use flare wrenches on these lines ** Luckily the hard line that corner attaches to is fairly short to the "T" fitting and looks easy to replace but I'm in no hurry to replace it as it's not going to leak...

As for the OE vs. SS question, if the OE's were anywhere close in price I would use them, I have no dislusions that SS are making me stop shorter.

AOW162435

Bill,
I guess the same gorilla was apprenticing when my '95 was built - ran into he same issue. A deftly-placed Vice-Grip did the trick and I was able to salvage the fitting without further damage. And I have a nice set of flare wrenches!

Andreas

DaveM993

Probably worth resurrecting an oldie but a goodie. Seems our Mr. Calvo was no fan of SS lines.

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ss+steel+brake

Phil

nor was Porsche racing................

Dan V

Thanks for the info Bill W. I will be taking the same route!

Slow Guy

Dan, make sure you have good flare nut wrenches (11mm & 17mm I think). The fronts came apart fairly easily but you need to know that the "flat" side of the fitting is there for a reason, the bracket the lines go through (on both ends) has a flat section it goes through. If you don't line up the flat section of the new fittings the fitting will rotate 360 deg but you won't be able to get the retaining clip on afterwards. You'll understand after you do the first one.

I have both reg. flare wrenches and flare "crows foot" set but wasn't able to break loose that left rear. You should also use a std. 15mm (?) wrench on the outter portion so you don't round out the retaining bracket fitting on the rear. It's hard to see but it's there.