CAB Top Problem -- Need Help
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Mine would not lock. Yes up.
The casing comes apart;
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=53378&highlight=latch
There are two visible philips screws on each side of the cover (you can see these with the roof still latched. Remove these and see if you can pull the cover down gently to get better visibility. You may be able to get a screwdriver in there and knock the latches to release. If the gears are gone the latches will spin freely.
The casing comes apart;
http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=53378&highlight=latch
There are two visible philips screws on each side of the cover (you can see these with the roof still latched. Remove these and see if you can pull the cover down gently to get better visibility. You may be able to get a screwdriver in there and knock the latches to release. If the gears are gone the latches will spin freely.
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Glad you managed to take the cover off. I just did the same (pulled my car apart). 
STEP AWAY FROM GRINDER
Remove the four big alan key bolts and twiddle the motor or drop or raise the body of the motor (the magnet side).
Im sure this will release the latch as it sits vertically to the car windscreen panel.
Good luck.
STEP AWAY FROM GRINDER
Remove the four big alan key bolts and twiddle the motor or drop or raise the body of the motor (the magnet side).
Im sure this will release the latch as it sits vertically to the car windscreen panel.
Good luck.
Last edited by Bouzoukikid; Aug 16, 2010 at 03:58 PM.
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I'm able to remove the 4 allen bolts holding the motor but since the pin is partially locked I can not drop the body of the motor out of the frame. I tried twiddling and pushing the motor up and down, but no success. That's my dilemma- how to remove motor whilst the pin is still partially latched to windscreen frame.
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on the passenger side (my drivers side RHD) the magnet side needs to move up. I lot of violent shaking AND also shake the soft top up and down to release tension on the latch.
Don't forget a lot of these cars had recalls where softops would open by themselves. Your latch should be freely rotating because of the bad teeth.
If all else fails, grinder on the gear mechanism but last resort. AND MOVE WIRING OUT THE WAY.
Don't forget a lot of these cars had recalls where softops would open by themselves. Your latch should be freely rotating because of the bad teeth.
If all else fails, grinder on the gear mechanism but last resort. AND MOVE WIRING OUT THE WAY.
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I shall try it one more time when I reach home this evening. Otherwise surgical grinding is the last resort moviing away wiring and upholstery fo course. It'll be messy with metal chips all over if I decide to grind away. Thanks for your time!
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Your welcome.
I know how frustrating these little jobs can become so I feel your pain.
Another thing to try is to loosen bolts on both motors to give you some lateral movement. Move the faulty motor whilst pressing the switch backwards and forward, and slight up and down movement on the soft-top. The gear may just catch.
You'll need an extra pair of hands.
Costa.
I know how frustrating these little jobs can become so I feel your pain.
Another thing to try is to loosen bolts on both motors to give you some lateral movement. Move the faulty motor whilst pressing the switch backwards and forward, and slight up and down movement on the soft-top. The gear may just catch.
You'll need an extra pair of hands.
Costa.
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Glad you managed to take the cover off. I just did the same (pulled my car apart).
STEP AWAY FROM GRINDER
Remove the four big alan key bolts and twiddle the motor or drop or raise the body of the motor (the magnet side).
Im sure this will release the latch as it sits vertically to the car windscreen panel.
Good luck.
STEP AWAY FROM GRINDER
Remove the four big alan key bolts and twiddle the motor or drop or raise the body of the motor (the magnet side).
Im sure this will release the latch as it sits vertically to the car windscreen panel.
Good luck.
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Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Melbourne Australia
Wondering if you can pop the trim off, you then ought to be able to access the the motor retaining screws, unscrew them from the cab frame, unplug the wiring and lift the cab top up leaving the motor latches still locked into the windscreen. Perhaps then you'll have sufficient access to split the motor casing in situ, (easy job) remove the worm gear innards and spin the cam latch away from the windscreen lock ... the other half of the assembly will then come away.
I think then, depending on the $$ it may be an option to buy new motor assemblies complete rather than stuff around replacing the stripped gear, as I did.
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on the passenger side (my drivers side RHD) the magnet side needs to move up. I lot of violent shaking AND also shake the soft top up and down to release tension on the latch.
Don't forget a lot of these cars had recalls where softops would open by themselves. Your latch should be freely rotating because of the bad teeth.
If all else fails, grinder on the gear mechanism but last resort. AND MOVE WIRING OUT THE WAY.
Don't forget a lot of these cars had recalls where softops would open by themselves. Your latch should be freely rotating because of the bad teeth.
If all else fails, grinder on the gear mechanism but last resort. AND MOVE WIRING OUT THE WAY.
thanks for all your help on this "easy" DIY.Now the decision is replace the gear ($99) or purchase a new unit. Pelican has them for $359. Used for $280. Any thoughts or experience with gear change only.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...20Cabrio%20%20
http://www.vertexauto.com/ShowItem/2...otor+Gear.aspx
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VICTORY at last!
I brought in the big gun (my wife)
There are two philips screws holding the magnet motor to the gears. If they have become loose, the motor spindle gear will not make contact with the gears as happened to mine.
No experience here in replacing the gears I'm afraid.
If you need to replace the motor, the price differential between new and used does not seem enough to me and I would personally opt for new.
Regards
Costa.
Last edited by Bouzoukikid; Aug 17, 2010 at 05:34 PM.
