95 or 96+?
#16
I did search for 993 buyers guide, wonder why that thread didn't show? Thanks for all the great responses. I have a line on a really nice low-miles 97, and another 95 that's almost as nice. From the sound of it, I'd almost prefer the 95 and the added bonus that it's cheaper.
#19
There was a TSB in '95 that restated the aligment settings due to excessive tire wear. As always, Porsche had too much toe, which combined with the camber wore the tire pretty quick. While a couple of the suspension arms are a differnet part number (last number for revision) I have seen no visible differences of any alignment setting ranges or problems that would make a '95 in ANY way less desirable than a '96. Actually suppliers show the different component revisions as interchangable.
#20
Originally Posted by RallyJon
How about this: Find a '95 roller / bad drivetrain. Import a Euro OBD1 varioram engine and G50-21 'box and install them. Varioram and better gears and emissions invisible.
- OBD1 3.8RS (ROW) check
- G50/30 mit custom gears check
- '95 993 coupe mit RS aero package check
#21
Originally Posted by c993k
There has to be someone in here who knows if there really is a difference in the rear suspension on the 95's and what exactly is needed to imrprove if necessary. Chris
Left A Arm (993.331.041.02)
Right A Arm (993.331.042.02)
L&R Kinematic links (993.331.045.03)
L&R Camber Links (993.331.047.03)
L&R Subframe Arches (993.331.131.06)
I don't know the nature of the changes..
#22
The thing to note Dan is that the '95 parts have been superceded by the ones from '96. So there is no way that a component (including the subframe) could be changed individually (control arm, toe arm,etc) and if there was a geometry change. If that were true, you would have to change other mating parts, and potentially the parts on the other side of the car. This is not true, so the parts have to be virtually identical and no reason to potentially change one for another.
Good to see you on the board BTW.
Good to see you on the board BTW.
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I agree with others on this topic. Find the best 993 with the most desirable options/color in the best condition possible. Of course, within your budget
If equipped with LSD, 1995 993's have (from what I understand) the ZF diff versus the GKN of the 96-98. Also, slide-on second gear layshafts of the 1995 apeal to me along with a studded diff sidecover.
I will go on to say these differences were NOT the reason I ended up with a 1995, just found the car that I liked that met my criteria.
Drive all you can, and you'll start to feel the differences between the good and the not so good.
If equipped with LSD, 1995 993's have (from what I understand) the ZF diff versus the GKN of the 96-98. Also, slide-on second gear layshafts of the 1995 apeal to me along with a studded diff sidecover.
I will go on to say these differences were NOT the reason I ended up with a 1995, just found the car that I liked that met my criteria.
Drive all you can, and you'll start to feel the differences between the good and the not so good.
#27
Let's just put it this way, my ideal car is not red, green or white and does not have a black or gray interior. A yellow car is the exception and would look great with a black interior. It has limited-slip (required), reasonable miles and ALL records. Everything after that is a bonus. If it's not already at euro-height I'll change that immediately (and fix any alignment issues then). I'll also add an exhaust, my favorite wheels and a 3.8RS biplane wing. Then I'm done...yeah right. I do like to tweak my cars so a 95 might be a plus. I'm in an emissions town, but it's nowhere near as restrictive as kali.
#29
Originally Posted by viperbob
The thing to note Dan is that the '95 parts have been superceded by the ones from '96. So there is no way that a component (including the subframe) could be changed individually (control arm, toe arm,etc) and if there was a geometry change. If that were true, you would have to change other mating parts, and potentially the parts on the other side of the car. This is not true, so the parts have to be virtually identical and no reason to potentially change one for another.
Good to see you on the board BTW.
Good to see you on the board BTW.
If anyone's interested, here's a recent discussion where this issue came up. As noted therein, Reiser at PCA recommends updating '95 suspension parts to '96 parts, but gives no support or reasoning other than "geometry differences." This is unpersuasive (to say the least) and as a result, nobody does this $3k update AFAIK.
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-forum/252070-best-year-993-a.html
Originally Posted by Gregg Lewis
REar suspension is the same.
#30
On the rear suspension difference, that "update" or "'95 fault" issue has been floated around for some time now and there is NO one, not a single Pro Tuner that I have talked to, that has ever given this so-called difference any credence. And thanks to Viper Bob for further elaborating here. I have no idea which orifice Reiser is speaking from
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