TargaTango

Porsche advise that the Tip version of the forthcoming 997 Turbo will accelerate quicker than the 6 speed manual:

0-100km/h 3.7sec (Tip) and 3.9sec (man)
0-200km/h 12.2sec (Tip) and 12.8sec (man)

All the best,

911

Amazing how newer technology is making the tips quicker than the manuals. I test drove an Audi 3.2 A3 with DSG (direct shift gearbox) and I couldn't believe how fast it was. It was almost like a sequential gearbox where the revs pulled on every upshift. Like the 997 TT, the tip was quicker than the manual from 0-60 by .2-.3ths.

tam993

Got news for you guys, manual shifting is old school....
I don't think any one can shift faster than tipping a shift paddle or switch.
do they even manually shift F1 cars any more? I know the new drag cars use electronic shifting.
I suspect the manual will always be around.... because it's "cheap"

the_buch

They must have a launch program built into the 997tip because it would be hard to outdo a basic side-stepping of the clutch at 4000rpm in the manual. As I recall, BMW's SMG transmission would record the number of launches performed and the clutch would be out of warranty after ten??

Ray Calvo

I thought that American drag racers/hot rodders have known this for years.

TroyN

DSG is not the same as an automatic, it has a clutch (or does it have 2?). With true automatics (even "manually shifted" ones), the torque converter is the limiting factor. I wonder with drag cars if someone came up with a automatic-shifting manual that could handle all the torque if it would be faster than an automatic.

Anyway, interesting about the turbo, I didn't think it was getting DSG yet, and it doesn't sound right that the tip would be faster.

pcar964

I find it hard to believe that a slushbox tip will be faster than the manual. DSG perhaps, but not the slushbox. Unless of course they played with the gear ratios to make sure the tip was faster.

Dudley

sidned

Here we go again. I'm getting some popcorn - this could be interesting!

TheOtherEric

According to this month's Car & Driver, the new 997TT is NOT getting the dual-clutch sequential gearbox right now. However, it IS expected to get it at some point. I've heard this elsewhere as well.

Dan V

I'm sure that the racing pros that post in this forum will be able to beat the Tip dispite the numbers published by Porsche. My Heros! :swoon:

pcar964

Wow, I didn't realize that was a controversial opinion. Man, you guys need to turn your sensitivity meter down a few notches.

Mark in Baltimore

IIRC, the magazines tested the old automatic 300ZX turbo and found it to be faster than the manual box, apparently due to gearing and turbo lag issues.

ZombiePorsche44

If manual shifting is old school then I hope I never graduate........I have enough wonderful time saving devices in my life already.....................ZP44

Dan V

"I shift gears the way I start my car: with muscle power! It was good enuf for grandpa, by golly -- all those new-fangled conveniences are for sissies!"