993 suspension mods
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New car for the track this year. 96 993 purchased with car already lowered, and sport exhaust. This was a street car, but some performance add-ons for looks. On Michlelin sport cups it turned a decent 2:18 at the glen first time out. Another club members 993 is running 2:15 with a PSS9 kit. He ran jump seat and feels a little more body roll. Our line and braking is very similar (his opinion). He does have a bigger sway bar on the rear. I believe mine is a 20mm and it looks to be a 22mm up front. Car was corner balanced and tends to push slightly. My friend thought a PSS9 would make an improvement, but to consider going a little further since I intend to mainly track the car. Any help out there will be appreciated.
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Hi Bob
I have a 1995 Non varioram C2 and have made the following three steps which each time transformed the feel and handling of the car:
1st step and Biggest transformation:
Pss9's plus RS anti roll bars and RS front strut brace all set to RS suspension specs
Second step - Michelin Pilot sport cups
Third step - stiff rear axle kit - solid mounts for the rear sub frame, much better controlability in the bends and when the rear steps out.
Also went for RS motor mounts to keep then engine from moving (didn't notice much track improvement but it feels like a race car now with all the feedback from the engine!)
Finally lots of race driver tuition inbetween each mod
Hope my experience helps
John
I have a 1995 Non varioram C2 and have made the following three steps which each time transformed the feel and handling of the car:
1st step and Biggest transformation:
Pss9's plus RS anti roll bars and RS front strut brace all set to RS suspension specs
Second step - Michelin Pilot sport cups
Third step - stiff rear axle kit - solid mounts for the rear sub frame, much better controlability in the bends and when the rear steps out.
Also went for RS motor mounts to keep then engine from moving (didn't notice much track improvement but it feels like a race car now with all the feedback from the engine!)
Finally lots of race driver tuition inbetween each mod
Hope my experience helps
John
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Be careful of the "nut behind the wheel"; the more you try to compare lap times and push yourself to match/exceed the other guy, the better your chances of ending up into a guard rail. Get a good instructor to sit with you in the passenger seat and critique your driving or offer things to try the next time you hit the track.
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At Laguna Seca last weekend a pal, chasing his DE/Time Trial competition, put his car into the tire barrier at turn 4. He did about $5,000 in damage...this was a DE event, NOT a race. He is hoping to have his car fixed by December.
In the heat of battle, we sometimes forget our limitations....the fog of testosterone clouds our judgement. As Clint Eastwood says in the closing lines of Magnum Foece, "A man has got to know his limitations!"
"Racing" mistakes can be very expensive an potentially fatal. I personally know of 3 fatalities this year, 2 at Cali Speedway and 1 at Watkins Glen. Back off a bit until you have lots of seat time, a HANS device, a roll cage and a fuel cell. Maybe then...go for it 10/10th...in a racing situation, not DE.
Keep the shiny side up.
In the heat of battle, we sometimes forget our limitations....the fog of testosterone clouds our judgement. As Clint Eastwood says in the closing lines of Magnum Foece, "A man has got to know his limitations!"
"Racing" mistakes can be very expensive an potentially fatal. I personally know of 3 fatalities this year, 2 at Cali Speedway and 1 at Watkins Glen. Back off a bit until you have lots of seat time, a HANS device, a roll cage and a fuel cell. Maybe then...go for it 10/10th...in a racing situation, not DE.
Keep the shiny side up.
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Ray, I appreciate your concern. This is not a 10/10th lap effort, but an attempt at objectivity. I have never pushed a car or my driving level to a track off, spin or "close call". I have no interest in a DE "checkered flag". I have been driving for some time , but this car is new to me so I am looking for advice on what were significant improvements without getting to carried away. I referenced lap times at the Glen for those who drive the track and know what is reasonable to expect from similar setups.
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John, thanks. I am hearing similar advice from club members. I am running sport cups instead of hoosiers because of the wear issues. The other items you mention make sense. One other option was Sport Cup setup, $$$$ though. I may start Nasa and club racing next year for "fun", so I want to do this once. I am getting about 25 days on the track a year with various clubs.
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I know guys with much less "car" than I do that can wipe the track up with me (not saying much, granted), and have times that would shame many a driver with more HP and suspension. I'd use the $$ in adding seat time. And when you get good enough that killer times are consistently excellent, then get pro instruction. Sure the car is "limited," but the bigger limitation is more often than not our own skills (either that, or I'm just speaking for myself
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