Look what I found on my way to the gym today...
08-07-2005, 10:06 PM
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thank god the passengers are safe and the 993 was only a tip.....
08-07-2005, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by texas911
Aren't those poles supposed to give? Glad everyone was OK. Dang illegals with no insurance. We all pay for that.
i am glad no one was hurt and agree that anyone driving without insurance is a bad thing...but as a fellow Texan i have to say that without Mexicans putting on roofs in 105 degree weather, cooking in all the kitchens, etc... this state would come to its knees...
not trying to be too off-topic or controversial.... these posts about "illegals" just sort of rubbed me a little weird when i read them...
08-07-2005, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
hmmm.... i guess i agree with you about the non-insured...but you dont have to be an illegal [assume you mean Mexican] to be non insured...i am glad no one was hurt and agree that anyone driving without insurance is a bad thing...but as a fellow Texan i have to say that without Mexicans putting on roofs in 105 degree weather, cooking in all the kitchens, etc... this state would come to its knees...not trying to be too off-topic or controversial.... these posts about "illegals" just sort of rubbed me a little weird when i read them...
As in Texas, LA run on Mexican labor and would cease to function without it. I employ many, all Oxacan, and all great people. BUT... bad driving skills, lack of any responsibility or concern for said responsibility, all add up to increased premiums in not just our auto insurance, but medical also. Do I have a quick fix, of course not. The problem is huge, will define our culture for the future, and may bankrupt many insurers and muncipalities before long.
All that being said, this poor guy just lost his beautiful cab because of a uninsured illegal immigrant with marginal driving skills....
08-08-2005, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Jonathon glad you brought it up. I wasn't sure I should have posted that, but I wanted to open the dialog if anyone cared to.
As in Texas, LA run on Mexican labor and would cease to function without it. I employ many, all Oxacan, and all great people. BUT... bad driving skills, lack of any responsibility or concern for said responsibility, all add up to increased premiums in not just our auto insurance, but medical also. Do I have a quick fix, of course not. The problem is huge, will define our culture for the future, and may bankrupt many insurers and muncipalities before long.
All that being said, this poor guy just lost his beautiful cab because of a uninsured illegal immigrant with marginal driving skills....
As in Texas, LA run on Mexican labor and would cease to function without it. I employ many, all Oxacan, and all great people. BUT... bad driving skills, lack of any responsibility or concern for said responsibility, all add up to increased premiums in not just our auto insurance, but medical also. Do I have a quick fix, of course not. The problem is huge, will define our culture for the future, and may bankrupt many insurers and muncipalities before long.
All that being said, this poor guy just lost his beautiful cab because of a uninsured illegal immigrant with marginal driving skills....
my only [controversial] point here is that if you wanted to sweep the street of Mexicans here in TX, the cost by impact to the economy from lost labor would be much more $$ than the insurance premium inflation you are discussing... i am not saying that is is right, correct, just, etc...i am just stating an [unfortunate] fact...TX would be a much more expensive place to live without our illegal Mexican labor force here...
now this is all the $$ angle of it, which says nothing for the immeasurable damage from people getting hurt by an irresponsible uninsured motorist, etc... thats a whole other issue/point...
08-08-2005, 12:55 AM
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wow... had to do a double take on that... very out of place... the accident looks strangely "perfect". almost staged.
what a great job the car did for it's occupants.
ferry.
what a great job the car did for it's occupants.
ferry.
08-08-2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
agreed with your comments about the uninsured guy...this sucks...he shouldnt have been driving and i am just glad that no one got hurt....
my only [controversial] point here is that if you wanted to sweep the street of Mexicans here in TX, the cost by impact to the economy from lost labor would be much more $$ than the insurance premium inflation you are discussing... i am not saying that is is right, correct, just, etc...i am just stating an [unfortunate] fact...TX would be a much more expensive place to live without our illegal Mexican labor force here...
now this is all the $$ angle of it, which says nothing for the immeasurable damage from people getting hurt by an irresponsible uninsured motorist, etc... thats a whole other issue/point...
my only [controversial] point here is that if you wanted to sweep the street of Mexicans here in TX, the cost by impact to the economy from lost labor would be much more $$ than the insurance premium inflation you are discussing... i am not saying that is is right, correct, just, etc...i am just stating an [unfortunate] fact...TX would be a much more expensive place to live without our illegal Mexican labor force here...
now this is all the $$ angle of it, which says nothing for the immeasurable damage from people getting hurt by an irresponsible uninsured motorist, etc... thats a whole other issue/point...
My only reason for even posting this was the words you posted, "my only [controversial] point here is that if you wanted to sweep the street of Mexicans here in TX"....frankly, I find that to be more out of line then his comment- for one he never said Mexicans.Two, not all Mexican's are illegal and noone ever mentioned getting rid of hard working American citizens who happen to be Mexican......to clump those people in with illegal's just isn't right.....
On a side note, your car is one of my favorite on this board
08-08-2005, 05:44 PM
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Sorry for the owner of that cab, glad everyone is OK.
and there is a BIG problem with illegals. maybe they support the local industry by allowing businesses to run cheaply, but there's a pretty high social cost. in addition to the no taxes/drain on jobs pool aspect, they make a vicious cycle for themselves by assuring that fewer people of their nationality/skill will be hired at a decent wage. also, the irresponsibility required to enter and work in the US illegally transfers to other aspects of life...car accidents being one, crime another. locally, we recently had a brazilian illegal arrested and deported who was wanted in brazil for the murder of a couple children. he'd been working here for years because people like you think it's ok for him to do so. think about what, and who, you're turning a blind eye to.
and there is a BIG problem with illegals. maybe they support the local industry by allowing businesses to run cheaply, but there's a pretty high social cost. in addition to the no taxes/drain on jobs pool aspect, they make a vicious cycle for themselves by assuring that fewer people of their nationality/skill will be hired at a decent wage. also, the irresponsibility required to enter and work in the US illegally transfers to other aspects of life...car accidents being one, crime another. locally, we recently had a brazilian illegal arrested and deported who was wanted in brazil for the murder of a couple children. he'd been working here for years because people like you think it's ok for him to do so. think about what, and who, you're turning a blind eye to.
08-08-2005, 06:21 PM
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Hey Jonathan, they have plenty of illegals ini California, and already people have posted that they are a big part of the workforce, yet I venture to say that LA isn't the cheapest place to live. So the illegals sure hasn't helped them much. Except drive their government to near bankruptcy.
I don't mind immigration, just illegal ones.
I don't mind immigration, just illegal ones.