Anyone that drives around in a car looking like that is going to get some polarized opinions on the aesthetics. I wouldn't take it personally or anything.

I have to agree with some of the naysayers - I think it's way too much. What I like about the Porsche 911 shape is its simple yet bold curves. The more stuff that is tacked, bolted, or riveted on there, the more you take away from that. Sort of like going out in an Armani suit but with gold and jewels on too, etc. Just too much. If that was entirely the point, then consider it a success.

 

Evan:

'Very nice. Thanks for posting. That's what my cabrio would look like if I lived closer to Viper Bob's.

Did FVD reinforce the body, or did they believe the cabrio shell was sufficiently rigid to withstand 650PS?

 

Horsepower, Torque?


tino

 

Cool car. Would love to see engine pics.

Obviously I fall in the pro flare crowd as I have them on my car.
Don't care for cabs but I have a friend that would absolutely love this.

 

No problem, glad you enjoyed it!!

Exactly, it is much more unique this was, and the owner wanted a cab.!! Thanks for all the compliments, I will have to pass this thread onto the techs in Germany (even though they can't read it ).

That is totally personal preference, I like them but agree there are some that would look better... They are not heavy, though I could see how you would think so by the looks of them. They are not a lightweight wheel either, just avg...

Thank you and NO PROBLEM!!

Thanks, its deff. sick!!
Thanks for the compliment on my car as well!!

Haha, no need to say shhhh we use other tuner's parts all the time!! The wheels will not change though as the owner likes those!! It used to have multispoke Brombacher wheels (which I liked better).



geeeeez this is gunna take awhile
Evan

 

You are missing the point though... This is a very expensive FACTORY OEM GT2 kit!! That is how the kit is... If we were going to fill the rivits we would have just done cheap custom fenders in the first place!! The idea was to make it look as close to a GT2 Cab. as possible!!

What do you mean "a car looking like THAT". You act like it has some crazy aftermarket bodykit, when it has a FACTORY 993 GT2 kit on it... I am not taking it personally, I just don't see how you talk about how you like the Porsche 911 shape, but don't like this kit when it is a FACTORY 911 kit... We did not just tack, bolt or rivet a bodykit, we put a FACOTRY kit on... The point was to create a 993 GT2 Cab. and yes it was a success... Did I mention its FACTORY??

HAHA, its what mine would look like too if I had one and had the money to do it .

I actually do not know for sure if they did reenforce it or not. I believe I heard they did, but I want to make sure before I say...

The car made 650PS (equivilant to about 650HP), however I do not know the TQ off hand... I will find out... It is capable of ~800HP with only new cams and programing, but would not be streetable...

I wish I had some for you!! There is a mag. shoot for the car next weekend, I will take a few of my own then and share!!

I didn't realize there was an anti-flare crowd out there!! Though everyone liked the GT2, guess not .


There, I think I got them all If I missed your repsonse please post it again and I will respond ASAP!!
Best Regards,
Evan

 

Very Very Nice! My cab will be on the next train out, if you'll take her...

 

No problem, send us the car, a check and give us a few months and she will be good to go You can even do euro delivery and go test it out on the roads of Germany (of course the Autobahn)!!
Evan

 

Evan,

Quite a nice car! I am sure very fast too. Of course each person has a different taste and might or not like the car. I think it is quite nice and Mr . Bombarcher certainly has the right to own the best of the best, a 993 .. The rims are not my favourite though, I wish there was a picture without the roof just to see how it looks like on a GT2 body..Also, the GT2 wing on a narrow body car looks too big IMO. (Edit: Is it a wide body?, looks a bit narrow to me if you remove the flares?)

I hope they have matched functionality to looks though.. Putting 380 mm disks on a street car does not make sense at all for instance, it actually hurts braking peformance and increase unsprung weight.. FVD has some great products, I own one of your 3.8 engines and it drives quite nicely.

You are posting a controversial thread though as you are releasing only some info on the build and some of the things mentioned will open a can of worms

I am very curious to see what the Motorport intercooler is for $12k, I know Porsche used Secan for their race cars, and that one is more like $20K.

The Race version intake came without Airflow meter, not a custom one, unless that is what you were saying. Porsche racing engines were pressure sensing engines, like the 993 N/A, and had no MAF.

Another thing is the cams, you mention that you have to change cams to get 800 hp? you would not get to 650 hp without the same cams, I would guess it is more a matter of what boost you are running and whether the FVD 3.8 P&C will resist getting close to 800 hp, which they are not.

Please don't take it the wrong way, I love your products, and the fact that you are a main sponsor, but this seems like a marketing post more than informational one.

Thanks for the pictures though, he has one hell of a car.

 

Hi Jean,
Thank you very much for the response!!

I believe you are right and the intercooler was 20K not 12K. Now that I am thinking about it I remember 20, but will confirm.... It is the Porsche Motorsports one that they used in the GT2 Race Car...

Functionality has been matched to looks. I have been assured the brakes are MUCH better. I am not sure how it would hurt braking performance?? Increase unsprung weight they do, but again its not a race car and we live in flat straight Florida where cornering is not on the top of the list .

You are correct the intake did come without an air flow meter, which is what I was saying, FVD DE custom made one for the intake for this car and it does have a MAF.

To get the 800PS we would need to change the cams AND programing!! Yes it would obviously require more boost which the P&C's CAN handle, but this would not be a streetable setup anymore which is why they choose to not do it. Like I said the goal was to build a BALANCED RELIABLE STREETABLE car.

I did not take your post the wrong way at all!! This is not a marketing post (hell I don't see that many people shelling out this kind of money to make it worth a marketing post). Like I wrote in my orig. post, I do not know many of the specifics of the build which is why I encourage people to ask specific questions as you have so I can ask the owner or one of the guys in Germany!! The point of my post was to simply share a car which I thought was just plain AWESOME!!
Best Regards,
Evan

 

Evan, maybe you were right and you can get me one for $12k!

See I told you you were opening a can of worms ! Whoever told you that they brake MUCH better did not really tell you the whole truth . They do brake MUCH better when you can get them to the right temps, which is very unlikely that you will ever during street driving. These brakes are not even used in current FIA GT Cup Cars races, which use 355mm, as the races are too short to get the brakes to best operating temperatures!!!..GT2 EVO race cars did use them on some longer races. They are a great marketing tool that many tuners know how to sell.

Evan, normally a TT engine comes with the MAF and then you remove it to go pressure sensing or MAP, since MAF is limited and cannot take you beyond 600 hp properly, it will distort your A/F ratios.. So they either have the MAF system or the pressure sensing, which was the GT2 racing one that goes with the modified Secan intercooler. I am not a tech guy at all but I have been through this as my car uses the GT2 racing intake system.

You are right, they can handle boost as in "will not break up to 1.3-1.4 Bar", but will leak through the heads considerably and the engine will overheat, and it will not be too long until you have serious issues. The only way to build a balanced reliable 800 hp engine is to go with Mahle P&C. You don't have to believe me but you can ask some of our board experts and even FVD resellers, BTDT. I am of course guessing that this engine has improved rods, head studs, etc..to withhold those boost pressures needed for 800 hp.

I did not mean you are trying to sell this particular product but yes trying to point out what a great build FVD can put together... Or maybe not, and if that is the case then I apologize for thinking that way. I have a 550 hp 3.8TT FVD engine too as I said earlier and they are very good products that I always recommend (most big German houses use the same suppliers and ECU programmers)

Thanks for sharing, it is a great car and reminds me of the 700hp+ convertibles that RS Tuning and Protomotive among others used to build in the 90's..Mean machines!!

I know you are not a tech guy at FVD Evan and I am not either so I am just sharing what I know and try to keep information as straight as possible since it can cost people a lot of money unnecessarily.

Thanks again.
Jean

 

Ha ha I agree anonimous powerfull cars are the best.
However IMHO this car can not be considered anonimous after seing all those GT2 BodyKit and rivets.

 

Very Nice! Enjoy!

 

It's my new goal in life to see and touch one of these "MAGICAL" Secan intercoolers.
I may go weak in the knees......

20k, wtf? Still gets me everytime since the first time TB993TT mentioned its existence.

 

Are they made out of gold?