Corner Balancing Question
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Corner Balancing Question
I've searched for threads on corner balancing, but have not had the time or the gumption to find the answer to these questions (from me, the neophyte):
What exactly is corner balancing?
Should this routinely be done with alignment for a car which is primarily driven on the street?
My thoughts are on this as I am getting ready to upgrade the car with new springs/shocks.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Rick
What exactly is corner balancing?
Should this routinely be done with alignment for a car which is primarily driven on the street?
My thoughts are on this as I am getting ready to upgrade the car with new springs/shocks.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Rick
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In a nutshell, it involves adjusting dampers or shocks to displace an even amount of weight side to side, in a road cars case. Since the 993 has roughly a 40/60% weight split front to back, its typical to have a majority, or 60% of the vehicles weight on the rear tires. Corner balancing, in effect, is balancing axle weight, side to side..
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Originally Posted by chris walrod
In a nutshell, it involves adjusting dampers or shocks to displace an even amount of weight side to side, in a road cars case. Since the 993 has roughly a 40/60% weight split front to back, its typical to have a majority, or 60% of the vehicles weight on the rear tires. Corner balancing, in effect, is balancing axle weight, side to side..
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Kim is correct... But, if there aren't any weights around, bring a book because you'll be sitting there for a while!!
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From: yorba linda, ca
Originally Posted by Arrwin
Do you have to be sitting in the driver's seat during the corner balancing process as to get an accurate alignment?
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Chris raises a good point and we always ask the customer how they drive their cars with a passenger and when they are alone.
Most (not all) folks do not push the car real hard with someone else on-board so we usually cornerweight & align the car with the driver's weight in the seat.
Most (not all) folks do not push the car real hard with someone else on-board so we usually cornerweight & align the car with the driver's weight in the seat.
Last edited by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems; Mar 16, 2005 at 01:07 PM.
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Interesting thread. I had not ever thought of balancing the car for two occupants. As Steve suggested, I rarely push my car hard when I am with a passenger. Now, for DEs, with an instructor, balancing the car empty makes perfect sense.
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Does corner balancing result in a height variation from side to side? The reason I ask is because my car currently has the FL fender to ground measurement about 15mm higher than the FL. It is currently on stock suspension, and I'm changing this over to Bilstein HD + RoW M030 in the coming weeks, but I am curious (and perhaps worried) about the current height difference. Could it be the result of the PO doing a corner balance, or maybe it is just set up all wrong? 
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The corner balance COULD cause a fender height variation. In order to get the car to corner balance, it might not be exactly even.
Some high powered TTs can flex their chassis due to all the torque, I have been told.
Some high powered TTs can flex their chassis due to all the torque, I have been told.
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Originally Posted by Paul902
Does corner balancing result in a height variation from side to side? The reason I ask is because my car currently has the FL fender to ground measurement about 15mm higher than the FL. It is currently on stock suspension, and I'm changing this over to Bilstein HD + RoW M030 in the coming weeks, but I am curious (and perhaps worried) about the current height difference. Could it be the result of the PO doing a corner balance, or maybe it is just set up all wrong?
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Originally Posted by 911XTC
Paul, you shouldn't worry too much about fender height measurements. There is a fair amount of build tolerance in the body assembly. Even after you car is corner balanced fender lip to ground measurements can be off by a considerable amount. Ride height measurements should be taken from the datum points on the chassis.
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Originally Posted by 911XTC
Paul, you shouldn't worry too much about fender height measurements. There is a fair amount of build tolerance in the body assembly. Even after you car is corner balanced fender lip to ground measurements can be off by a considerable amount. Ride height measurements should be taken from the datum points on the chassis.
Greg/911XTC - thanks. I know the datum points you speak of. So, the process would be to install the susp with height according to the datum points, and then corner balance afterwards which could change these heights some amount?
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Originally Posted by rickw51
My thoughts are on this as I am getting ready to upgrade the car with new springs/shocks.
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Rick
Thanks in advance for your insights.
Rick
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So is the recommendation to corner balance everytime an alignment is done?
I decided to drive into work today and probably shouldn't of. Hit a HUGE (new) pothole on the front driver's side wheel.
I thought for sure the Kinesis rim was bent, but luckily it looked ok. Does this call for an alignment?? The car still seems to track ok.
How does one know when an alignment is needed? Any quick test I can perform to check [before the uneven tire wear]?
I decided to drive into work today and probably shouldn't of. Hit a HUGE (new) pothole on the front driver's side wheel.
I thought for sure the Kinesis rim was bent, but luckily it looked ok. Does this call for an alignment?? The car still seems to track ok. How does one know when an alignment is needed? Any quick test I can perform to check [before the uneven tire wear]?