New License Plate
02-22-2005, 06:05 PM
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Oh dear, dear, dear, where to start the re-education process....
Clive,
I don't subscribe to the notion that we pay "very low" gasoline taxes in the US. Nor do I believe that what European countries pay in taxes is in anyway relevant to our tax structure. They choose their form of government and suffer the consequences such as we do. We are still a capitalist society(barely), and not socialist as many European countries are today. Additionally, $90. is $90. and just another unnecessary added tax to a already punitive state tax structure.
Jonathon (my given name), yes of course freedom costs. But the costs of freedom are not remotely related to poor government fiscal management. One could argue that because the price of freedom is so costly, we deserve the most cost-efficient, accurate, and accountable(not in Enron terms) form of government. I'd love to tell you what percentage of gasoline taxes, originally funded for highway/street improvements whether Federal or State, are actually used for that purpose. If I remember correctly it's less than 15%. I will look that up and repost if I'm incorrect. I believe taxes based on user fees are the correct way to tax in all facets of our society. I'd love to see a income tax based on spending (see HR-25, The Fair Tax Initative sponsored by Rep. John Linder, Georgia http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/sketch.html) In the interim let's use user based tax funds as intented, or place the tax burden into the general budget where general taxes belong. Then everyone can see how their tax dollars are actually spent and make educated determinations on future taxes, and the tax policys of the representatives we elect to represent us in Congress.
Elke I love your plate! And yes, your government is clever as are all of them....
Stepping gingerly off my soapbox, I remain.....
Clive,
I don't subscribe to the notion that we pay "very low" gasoline taxes in the US. Nor do I believe that what European countries pay in taxes is in anyway relevant to our tax structure. They choose their form of government and suffer the consequences such as we do. We are still a capitalist society(barely), and not socialist as many European countries are today. Additionally, $90. is $90. and just another unnecessary added tax to a already punitive state tax structure.
Jonathon (my given name), yes of course freedom costs. But the costs of freedom are not remotely related to poor government fiscal management. One could argue that because the price of freedom is so costly, we deserve the most cost-efficient, accurate, and accountable(not in Enron terms) form of government. I'd love to tell you what percentage of gasoline taxes, originally funded for highway/street improvements whether Federal or State, are actually used for that purpose. If I remember correctly it's less than 15%. I will look that up and repost if I'm incorrect. I believe taxes based on user fees are the correct way to tax in all facets of our society. I'd love to see a income tax based on spending (see HR-25, The Fair Tax Initative sponsored by Rep. John Linder, Georgia http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/sketch.html) In the interim let's use user based tax funds as intented, or place the tax burden into the general budget where general taxes belong. Then everyone can see how their tax dollars are actually spent and make educated determinations on future taxes, and the tax policys of the representatives we elect to represent us in Congress.
Elke I love your plate! And yes, your government is clever as are all of them....
Stepping gingerly off my soapbox, I remain.....
02-22-2005, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
. One could argue that because the price of freedom is so costly, we deserve the most cost-efficient, accurate, and accountable(not in Enron terms) form of government. I'd love to tell you what percentage of gasoline taxes, originally funded for highway/street improvements whether Federal or State, are actually used for that purpose. If I remember correctly it's less than 15%. I will look that up and repost if I'm incorrect. I believe taxes based on user fees are the correct way to tax in all facets of our society. I'd love to see a income tax based on spending (see HR-25, The Fair Tax Initative sponsored by Rep. John Linder, Georgia http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/smart/sketch.html) In the interim let's use user based tax funds as intented, or place the tax burden into the general budget where general taxes belong. Then everyone can see how their tax dollars are actually spent and make educated determinations on future taxes, and the tax policys of the representatives we elect to represent us in Congress.
Elke I love your plate! And yes, your government is clever as are all of them....
Stepping gingerly off my soapbox, I remain.....
Elke I love your plate! And yes, your government is clever as are all of them....
Stepping gingerly off my soapbox, I remain.....
02-22-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Adrienne
...My current plate is a lot easier to explain, but rather embarrasing to explain to clients. It's loads of fun to explain to cops.
02-22-2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BradB
(AG is the periodic chart symbol for Silver, in case you didn't know)
02-22-2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by David in LA
Took me a while but I finally got it 
hey David, dont feel bad, some time's it takes a couple minutes. its usually just the porsche and vette guys that relate to it.
02-23-2005, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Elke I love your plate! And yes, your government is clever as are all of them....
But our government is not that clever - they take too much taxes and spend this money anywhere, nobody knows... that`s life!
Ciao
Elke
02-23-2005, 08:35 PM
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P-car enthusiast crossed with far north desiring bowhunter....