Zanio non-believer now believes!
05-19-2003, 10:49 PM
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Zanio non-believer now believes!
I was pretty skeptical on all the things I had read on this board about Zanio Polish as I have been taking care of my cars for over 30 years with what I thought were the best products on the market. A fellow Rennlister in the Seattle area mentioned something about using Zanio on his windshield...I emailed him and he showed me his "BLACK" C4S with Zanio...BEAUTIFUL! My car is Iris Blue Metalic and I could see small spyder web scratches in the finish so I tried my first two coats of Zanio...WOW what a complete change in the look of the finish on my car...spyder webbing gone...much deeper Blue...richer color...very smooth. This is by far the best product I have put on a finish and I am totally happy and THANKS to all who have gone before and reported on the great results...just wish I wasn't so bull-headed about change sometimes as I could have had this look long before now. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> (no affiliation,etc.)
05-20-2003, 12:24 AM
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Amen, I like you am a recent Zaino convert, shown the car to others and they too have jumped on the bandwagon. Now if I could just sell my old maguirs, Zymol, Mothers, Griot's ,etc ,etc ,etc,. In the future i will only buy Zaino in bulk !!!!!
have heard the other products are just as good ie tire dressing, have not tried it but will
have heard the other products are just as good ie tire dressing, have not tried it but will
05-20-2003, 01:43 AM
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Hey RCWelch,
Where did you buy your Zaino? Locally? How much was it? Looks like we're from the same area with the same car (if I ever find a quarter panel missing, I'll be sure to suspect you!).
I've been a 100% carnuba paste wax users for years and years, but I'm willing to give it a go and see if it helps.
Thanks,
Peter
Where did you buy your Zaino? Locally? How much was it? Looks like we're from the same area with the same car (if I ever find a quarter panel missing, I'll be sure to suspect you!).
I've been a 100% carnuba paste wax users for years and years, but I'm willing to give it a go and see if it helps.
Thanks,
Peter
05-20-2003, 02:14 AM
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Pete...you do "MY" deck and I'll do your car, I know you are becomming an expert at that. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
TamiyaGuy...We have a local distributor, email me at rrewelch@attbi.com and I will give you the information. What color is your car?
TamiyaGuy...We have a local distributor, email me at rrewelch@attbi.com and I will give you the information. What color is your car?
05-20-2003, 02:38 AM
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guys,
not to start any kind of flame war...
but, i use zaino and zymol both.
i think they are both great products and do a great job at making my car look good.
however, i find that the shine with an organic product (zymol) yields a totally different type of brilliance from the polymer wax. it somehow looks warmer and richer/ fuller
polymers do last longer and give you the wet look for a longer time.
but... if i were to prepare my car for an exhibition, i might choose zymol over zaino.
typically i use zaino on the jag and benz, but for my exotic babies and garage queens... mostly zymol.
anyone with a similar opinion?
not to start any kind of flame war...
but, i use zaino and zymol both.
i think they are both great products and do a great job at making my car look good.
however, i find that the shine with an organic product (zymol) yields a totally different type of brilliance from the polymer wax. it somehow looks warmer and richer/ fuller
polymers do last longer and give you the wet look for a longer time.
but... if i were to prepare my car for an exhibition, i might choose zymol over zaino.
typically i use zaino on the jag and benz, but for my exotic babies and garage queens... mostly zymol.
anyone with a similar opinion?
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05-20-2003, 08:55 AM
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I converted to Zaino when I got tired of all the white residue around all my trim. Here's a shot after a few coats:
<img src="http://webpages.charter.net/eggimann547/PLogowclouds2.jpg" alt=" - " />
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05-20-2003, 10:05 AM
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Superfly, I agree with you 100%. I am curious about zaino and read these fan posts with interest. And, I think my friend's newly zaino-treated red M3 looks great--but different. There is something about a pure carnuba shine that looks richer and deeper to me.
I also like the fact that the zymol stuff is a more natural formulation. The paint really seems to soak it up, and you NEVER get any white residue, swirl marks, etc. like from other products.
And last but not least, the place I buy all my wax, etc., from is a large and successful business. They have carefully tested the products side by side and picked zymol to use in their detailing business. Since their only motivation is making dollars and keeping fussy customers happy, I value their opinion.
I also like the fact that the zymol stuff is a more natural formulation. The paint really seems to soak it up, and you NEVER get any white residue, swirl marks, etc. like from other products.
And last but not least, the place I buy all my wax, etc., from is a large and successful business. They have carefully tested the products side by side and picked zymol to use in their detailing business. Since their only motivation is making dollars and keeping fussy customers happy, I value their opinion.
05-20-2003, 01:48 PM
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polymer vs. carnuba is thoroughly discussed at <a href="http://www.autopia.org/forums/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.autopia.org/forums/index.php</a>
Zaino and the polymer likes of Klasse do look different than the carnubas. The difference is less evident on light colored cars. Blacks and reds are the colors that really let you get a depth that the carnubas excel at. A couple of thoughts...Preperation of the paint surface is key to good results. If a car is daily driven I would suggest a different wax other than Zymol. It just doesn't last. If you want carnuba look into Blitz wax as it last much longer. Also PS21 has some great carnuba based waxes. Zymol is great for a concours car but is really not practical on a driven car unless you just want to continue to take it off and reapply. It initial look is fantastic and I can see how a detail shop would want to use it but it just does not last long. For a DIY the zaino application and removal could not be easier and you don't have the white residue.
If you really are interested in detailing wonder over to autopia. Those guys are nuts about detailing and there is a wealth of knowledge. You will learn a lot of tricks and some great products you never thought about.
Zaino and the polymer likes of Klasse do look different than the carnubas. The difference is less evident on light colored cars. Blacks and reds are the colors that really let you get a depth that the carnubas excel at. A couple of thoughts...Preperation of the paint surface is key to good results. If a car is daily driven I would suggest a different wax other than Zymol. It just doesn't last. If you want carnuba look into Blitz wax as it last much longer. Also PS21 has some great carnuba based waxes. Zymol is great for a concours car but is really not practical on a driven car unless you just want to continue to take it off and reapply. It initial look is fantastic and I can see how a detail shop would want to use it but it just does not last long. For a DIY the zaino application and removal could not be easier and you don't have the white residue.
If you really are interested in detailing wonder over to autopia. Those guys are nuts about detailing and there is a wealth of knowledge. You will learn a lot of tricks and some great products you never thought about.
05-20-2003, 05:31 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by sodly:
<strong>How do Griot's products rank in all of this?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Much of their stuff is over priced. They do have some good products but I would not waste my time on the wax. There are better alternatives for less money. The same can be said for the clay and speed shine.
<strong>How do Griot's products rank in all of this?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Much of their stuff is over priced. They do have some good products but I would not waste my time on the wax. There are better alternatives for less money. The same can be said for the clay and speed shine.
05-20-2003, 09:42 PM
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What product would you guys use to clean up and get rid of all the grime left after a wash and before polishing?? I tend to use combined cleaner/wax products but find that some of the road grime in the US is prolific and hard to remove...
My 993 doesn't get that dirty but I have black M-class to deal with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
My 993 doesn't get that dirty but I have black M-class to deal with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
05-20-2003, 10:45 PM
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There shouldn't be any "grime" on the finish after a wash. However, if you are going to polish the vehicle and then put on a wax or sealant I would recommend a couple of steps to get the best results.
1. Wash with dawn (or similar dish soap) - this will strip all old wax off.
2. debug and de-tar car (Porsche makes a great debugger)
3. clay the finish
4. Use high quality swirl mark remover and/or polish (depends on your finish and what your final wax or sealant).
5. Depending on what your final choice of wax or sealant there are a couple choices now. For example if zaino is your final choice then you are going to want to wash the car with z-7 (zaino car wash) to make sure there are no fillers.
Black car take more work to get right as you probably already know but the result are stunning and can't be touched by other colors in my opinion.
There shouldn't be any "grime" on the finish after a wash. However, if you are going to polish the vehicle and then put on a wax or sealant I would recommend a couple of steps to get the best results.
1. Wash with dawn (or similar dish soap) - this will strip all old wax off.
2. debug and de-tar car (Porsche makes a great debugger)
3. clay the finish
4. Use high quality swirl mark remover and/or polish (depends on your finish and what your final wax or sealant).
5. Depending on what your final choice of wax or sealant there are a couple choices now. For example if zaino is your final choice then you are going to want to wash the car with z-7 (zaino car wash) to make sure there are no fillers.
Black car take more work to get right as you probably already know but the result are stunning and can't be touched by other colors in my opinion.