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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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Exclamation 993 RS wheels on Ebay - BEWARE

I bought a set of RS Speedlines from an auction on ebay. The seller happens to be one of us here on Rennlist and while we exchange info about shipping of my wheels etc, he brought to my attention something I had noticed also yesterday.
There is a current auction running for a set of RS speedlines. What is most peculiar about that is that the wording on the details and the pictures are taken from the auction I won!!!
My seller said that it's not him who put up this auction and the following things struck me when looking at the auction besides the obvious copy of wording and pics:

1. The seller (nykitty2000)specified payment only by cashier's check, money order or wire transfer.
No ebay payments no paypal, no credit cards...
That means he can take the money and run...

2. Looking at the feedback on this seller you can see that the last one was sometime last year which show no activity.

Now I maybe paranoid and all and this may very well be a legit auction.My seller thinks as well that there is something fishy here...
I just wanted to bring this to your attention to keep you alert just in case you are going to bid.
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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Thanks Danny

I was thinking of bidding <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> Guess there no need too
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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I was the auction he copied. The text is taken verbatim from my ad and the photos are mine although altered. I am very skeptical that this is a legitimate auction. I have notified eBay.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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Thanks Danny for alerting everyone.
As a little test I sent nykitty2000 (lister of this auction) an email telling him I was interested in the wheels and wanted to know the part numbers stamped in the front and rear wheels.
I'll let everyone know if and what reply I get. It won't truly confirm if he has a set of wheels but it will be interesting if he does get back to me with the numbers. Hey, the numbers are stamped on the wheels so he shouldn't have a problem getting the numbers...right?. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Search on completed items for 993 RS.

He seems to have had a few sets of these wheels.

No doubt a fraud. Hacked account probably.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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On a similar note I asked for additional photos yesterday and got no replies. eBay is not proving too helpful on this matter either. They say I must get law enforcement involved and I must have a case number and officer's name before proceeding. But I don't think I can involve law enforcement when there is no real cause. I think this just needs to be buyer beware.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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It's pretty amazing these days. Ebay is not the place it used to be. I will never buy anything on ebay that does not have paypal or credit card payments.
It would be interesting to see what he replies to you guys.
Rennlist is a great place to be!
<img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:21 AM
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Here is the auction. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1859395529" target="_blank">Speedline wheels</a>

On the positive side, the seller has 22 positive feedbacks, with no negatives. Also, on the payment question, it is expensive for a seller to take payment by Paypal on such a big ticket item, so it isn't necessarily a bad sign that he wants MO, cahsiers check or wire.

Anyway, as with all things ebay, buyer beware.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:23 AM
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I think it's possible for someone to move 20 or so cheep items get a nice rating then move in for the big score(s) and disappear <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> leaving the buyer(s) <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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I'm not saying its a legit deal, but keep in mind a lot of people aren't computer savy enough to have a digital camera or a paypal account. They just want to sell some stuff they have. That being said, I wouldn't bid on this auction because of everyone's concerns. Bad photoshop edit too. 8-)
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Just a note, I was the high bidder of some BMW style 66 M wheels last year for my BMW. After I won the auction, I recieved an email from a third party asking if I had recieved the wheels yet. I asked why (and who he was) and he indicated that he had bid on the SAME wheels (SAME ADD, SAME PICTURE, and only slightly altered text) on Yahoo, from a user with NO feedback. This third party was the second high bidder, so he was told, and the first high bidder had not purchased the wheels. So, he sent a CASHIERS check to ITALY, which was where the seller lived, even though the picture was clearly taken in America (Pittsburgh I believe). Needles to say, he was taken for quite a bit of money. Only thing I can say is, there were too many warning signs on that auction, but I guess he thought he would get the wheels for a "price too good to be true!"

Guess it was, I felt bad for him (BTW, I got my wheels, love 'em)

I wonder sometimes if the seller and High bidder were in cahouts to try and see what he was willing to pay, and then hooked him.


I saw those wheels too, and I was thinking about bidding. I think I'll let this pass...

I noticed they were tha same add, but thought it was the same person with two sets, I assume that the legit auction was won with the "buy it now"?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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This user tried to sell the wheels once before, with no luck. He also has two additional sets for sale currently on Ebay. Maybe they are legit, or going for a big score? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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A supposed buyer with no bid history has been declared as the winner of the auction. Seems awfully suspicious.

I also stick to ebay auctions offering PayPal, and always pay through PayPal using a credit card rather than a draft from my bank account. That way, I've got about a month to make sure that the merchandise arrives. If not, you can contest the charge with the credit card company.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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The seller never responded to my email request. Odd since I told him of my interest in buying the wheels.
Guess I'll have to email him again when he puts up another set for sale. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" />
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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I've not even looked at this particular auction, but will comment on the copying of someone else's wording. I am about to put a set of 17" Cup wheels on eBay and have "captured" several past auctions for the same item in order to use some of their wording for my ad. I suppose this could be "plagerism" of some sort, but I am lazy, and I liked the wording in their ads, so will probably use bits and pieces of each of them to construct my own ad. However, I will definitely use my own pictures.
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