Hi
I did my Black 993 and 2 Door BMW, very dark blue with Gyeon's Ceramic Coating, took a day to buff, each car, to get the imperfections out of the paint, Including applying 3 coats of the ceramic coating, it looks perfect.
Very little effort to wash either car now.
But I agree, if it is a beauty queen and stays in the garage all the time, just use a wax, it lasts for years

 

I have been using Klasse Sealant Glaze, mostly because I have a large bottle and it has not run out.
It works great but it dries hard and so you need to put it on very thin so you can wipe off the haze without too much trouble.
I use it on my Porsche and on my F-150. Looks great.
I re apply it once a year, and keep my car in the garage, but do drive it regularly.

I am slowly switching to Wolfgang products.
https://www.autogeek.net/wg5500.html

The newer polymer products in the market in general (there are many) are much easier to wipe on / wipe off and they include UV protection, etc. as well as sealant.
I am sure there are many brands that are really great and lots of people have their favorites, so not pushing Wolfgang in any way here, it's just what I use.

I use the spray fuzion as a top coat over the Klasse, to give me spray on / wipe off if I need to rinse off my car after a drive or if I get caught in rain.

 

I asked you because I suspected you used Klasse. I used the Klasse All-in-One plus a second coat of the Sealant Gaze for years, and was always happy with it. Then I would finish with a coat of the P21S Carnauba wax. Loved the results for years. But when I finally took my 993TT to a high end detailing shop in San Diego, they used the CarPro polishing products with SiO2 in them. They finished it with the Essence Plus, which you just wipe off, no polishing oil remover required, as it also acts as an SiO2 sealant to some degree as well. So I decided to switch to something that would be more compatible with the SiO2 base they laid down. I ended up trying the McKee's 37 Graphene Deep Gloss Ceramic sealant, and it turned out amazing. So easy to apply and wipe off. I never had an issue getting Klasse off the car, but I know others have. But the McKee's is so easy, and lasts a long time. I only have to put it on my 993TT once every two years, but my car sees no weather but sunny days and is not driven that often. I finish it off when needed to be cleaned with Elite Finish Rinseless/Waterless solution, and it feels like glass afterwards. Highly recommend the combination. Elite Finish is where the car was polished. The owner is meticulous and created his own product. I have found nothing like it out there, and I have tried all the usual suspects.

I had used many Wolfgang products over the years as well, and like them. I just feel Autogeek has really fallen down on their customer service and product line offerings since the sale of the company and Mike left. So I don't use them for much of anything anymore. But Wolfgang is a fine line. The McKee's is longer lasting sealant than any of the ceramic based sprays I have tried though. I had intentions of trying the Wolfgang 3.0 when I was looking to switch from Klasse, but just never did given some of the order issues I was facing with AutoGeek at the time.


Graphene Deep Gloss Ceramic Sealant – McKees37.com

Elite Finish WashMist Waterless Wash Concentrate – EliteFinish

 

So what happens at the end of an applications natural lifespan? Am I hearing that there is an aggressive correction / removal process if you want to go back to no ceramic / old school?

 

It isn't aggressive. A normal two step polishing process will do the job, possibly a one step, depending on the remaining coating health. No aggressive compound or high cut polish is needed. But if you care for the coating well, it will last a long time if it is indeed a quality coating AND was applied correctly.

 

The guy who imported the new to me last July 968 CS, “theoretically” had a Gyeon 5 year ceramic coating applied, after paint correction. Just like every other extensive service, and restoration he did after importing it in early 2024…he provided no documentation to prove. The mechanical bits could be inspected and determined to be true, belts, brakes, rotors, tires, etc…car had a nice shine, and water beaded off it well. All last year I just used a detail spray to wipe it down.

This winter I spent months doing multiple cosmetic fixes to her, side skirt gaskets, front bumper beading(which is damn near identical to the 993), undercarriage detail, and more. I used my long time go to polymer coating, Rejex…to highly polish all those removed flexy bits. They turned out remarkably well, so I did the entire car…and it was a noticeable improvement on the results from the previous detailing spray…also a Corrosion Technology project.

This is in no way a criticism of the “theoretical” Gyeon product, as I realize that ceramic products vary, as do the application methods.

I’m just a huge fan of Rejex, and they’re complimenting Mr. Detail spray. They have proven to both work magic on many different colors, on my two Arctic Silver cars…they are simply neon radiant.

As a disclaimer, nothing I own is a garage queen…everything gets driven, and they’ve all been caught in the rain, without panic. The above referenced combo, makes for an effortless pre-drive prep. 1-2 clean rags, and a 10 minute spray detail…and we’re minty fresh again.

 

The old school thinking about waxes (P21S, carnuba, Klasse All In One, etc) is completely obsolete. Griots Ceramic 3-in-1 and similar products work so unbelievably well by comparison. I use Griots on all 3 of my cars and it keeps a shine for a good 6 months. My 993 (non clear coat) has NEVER shined like it does now. And it’s non-abrasive unlike so many polishing waxes, which is obviously important for non clear coat finishes.

And Griots is so good, I wouldn’t even consider full ceramic treatment.

 

I think the conversation on those all about history and what some of us used to do. So agree, fairly obsolete today. Curious, what is the full paint code listed in the frunk of your 993?

 

12G 9 2 Speed Gelb is on the sticker. The standard code I assume for 1995 speed yellow. I used to find it annoying since it was hard to get a shine, but the new modern ceramic spray waxes solved that!

 

I'm interested to see what John Paterek has to say about the ceramic approach. I'll ask him at his next tech session.

 

Thanks for the response. I was curious what year you had since around '97 I believe Speed Yellow changed over to 2 stage. But in '95 and '96 was definitely single stage. I am trying to confirm if it did indeed change to 2 stage in '97, since it no longer was a std color in '97. Was hoping you could help determine that.