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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 02:36 PM
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I just found a good price on Pagid Orange for the fronts (for whatever reason the place I found has them for considerably less $ than the rears).

My question, for those of you who use these, is do you any of you foresee a problem with using the Oranges with OEM pads on the rear? The way I figure it is clearly most braking load is on fronts, especially at racetrack speeds, and I've been using OEM pads w/o any problems thus far. I don't "race,", just TimeTrial, if that is of any consequence. BTW, I have no experience with any track pad, just the OEMs which I've never had any complaints with. Comments and advice, welcome. TIA!

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Edward:
<strong>My question, for those of you who use these, is do you any of you foresee a problem with using the Oranges with OEM pads on the rear? </strong><hr></blockquote>


Edward:

I have used the Pagid Orange Front / OEM Rear set-up for the last three DE events I have run and have seen no problems. Definitely feel like Pagids provide better braking and less fade late in my sessions.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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I recently tried Oranges in front and rear, and loved this combo lots! Never tried oranges in front only (with OEMs in rear), so can't comment on this difference. Major improvement from OEM's all-around! My humble opinion is this is a very nice addition to a track experience.
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Edward,
The main consequence of running the OEM's in the back would be that your bias would be more to the front and might result in over heating the brakes if you did a long run. Mechanically you won't hurt anything.

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Thanks, all. I can always count on this community!

Jess999,

Regarding those last three DEs, were they at tighter/slower tracks or more open/faster tracks. Just curious.

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:12 AM
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Edward:

My opinion is that if you are getting a great deal on the fronts, then buy the rears and average you savings across both sets. Like others have said, you won’t harm anything mechanically by using mismatched pads. Ideally, you want the rear end to do as much braking as it can without going into ABS. Sure the fronts are doing most of the work, but you don’t want to overwork them or significantly change the balance of the car. If you dump the bulk of the braking workload on the fronts, you will generate more heat and increase the possibility of boiling fluid which will ultimately reduce the effectiveness of the entire system. I feel that if you are on a track driving at high speeds, why risk the worse? A set of rear brake pads is significantly cheaper than any body panel on your car. It is cheap insurance.

Just my conservative opinion,

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Advice form the cogniscenti is always welcome. Thanks, Hank, for the words of wisdom...makes a whole lotta sense in that regard. (now I gotta go spend more $$ )

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:23 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Edward:
<strong>... were they at tighter/slower tracks or more open/faster tracks. </strong><hr></blockquote>


The DEs were at Summit Point which is a 10 turn 2 mile track that I would consider pretty fast and open. (130MPH+ at the end of the 3/4 mile long front straight. ) Althoough I and many others have not experienced problems with this set-up, Hank makes a good point concerning the balance between front and rear braking and the possibility for overheating the system. Better safe than in the wall.

<a href="http://www.comscc.org/~comscc/tracks/images/summit-2.gif" target="_blank">Summit Point Track Map</a>
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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So, is the 'place of purchase' a secret, or can you share with the rest of us Orange Lovers?
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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[quote] So, is the 'place of purchase' a secret, or can you share with the rest of us Orange Lovers? <hr></blockquote>

Actually in this case, I CAN since it's an approved R-list sponsor. <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />
Check out MotorSports Road and Racing. They got a good buy on front Pagids and are passing it along....their rear P.Oranges are at the going rate as others, though.

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