Agro1

LOL...That's why I asked if one was better then the other. I wondered if someone had any hard evidence that one was superior. To be honest, I'm not sure they do anything except look "trick". It's not like the 993 has a loose chassis that needs to be stiffened...

Greg Fishman

Actually they all do help somewhat. Which one is better is anyone's guess but I will side with the part that is used on the GT2 race and street cars. 993's are not soft chassis's but they are far from the stiffest. When we installed a cage in my race car the doors were almost an inch off and had to re-adjusted.

A strut tower brace will help maintain your camber through a corner and therefore optimizing tire contact with the pavement.

Mark in Hermosa

Agreed. In increases rigidity. You cannot, however, adjust the amount of camber with an adjustable bar. I am still trying to figure out the nature of an "adjustable" bar. It is one of those set it and forget it gadgets.

I would think the amount of unintentional flex would be less with a "better" bar. No moving parts (to me) equals less chance for flex equals better.

Randy M

If our cars were that loose where a strut bar could dial in negative camber than I would imagine driving over a pot hole would require a trip to the frame straightening shop.

Greg Fishman

I think what the adjustment bolts on those strut bars are for is to tighten them up (pre-load them) so when they are under load or cornering force they don't move or the joints don't flex as much. You might be able to tighten them enough to get a bit more camber but I would bet that it would be meaured in the tenths or hundreths of a degree.

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Crimson Nape Racing

FWIW, I was kiding. Our cars are already so stiff (we can get 3 wheels off the ground by jacking one corner), I would think that any benifit would be about as much as the extra negative camber that could be cranked in. Although, the bars do look cool, and that's worth something.

Mark in Baltimore

Are 993's so stiff that triangulating the shock towers would not provide some benefit? In 993 race cars, the factory welded in the cages of at various points in the chassis, such as the A-pillars, to increase rigidity. If it didn't help stiffen an already rigid car, then I have to wonder why they would go to the extra effort.

Coleman

I do think that the adjustment in the brace is worth it.. if you install a dead-fit brace, there will be some play in it before it starts to stiffen, (it's only a few mm's so I guess the amount is really pointless) but being able to crank up the pre-load on an adjustable model is kinda nice, negative or positive preload as well.. this means that the brace is tight and not going to settle and move under load before it starts to exert the equal amount of resistance to the load... It used to be, back in the halcyon days of modding VW's, you used to get some real benefits form the upper strut tie bar mod.. on the 993's I think it's more a "nice touch" mod...

Coleman

hatchy

I have the same bar. The adjustment is probably nice for someone who likes "dial in" their car... for the rest of us, its just a shiny piece of metal

nman413

I like the AJ USA bar, nice and beefy.

TomF

I think that Greg is right here- the "pre-loading" ability of the adjustable bars would seem to help in hard cornering. Remember, the strut towers pull away from each other under load... Go out and drive your car hard for a few minutes and then take off the bar for comparison. I bet that a spirited driver can feel the difference! For me, the steering feels more solid with the bar as well. I think that it creats more of a complete unit out of the front end. Incidentally, I have the AJ bar.

max911

I could feel the difference with a strut brace (Brey-Krause) as soon as I started to drive the car.
Leaving my residence I negotiated the back alley to street incline that I had done a hundred times before.....but this time... no creaking sound!!! and the little kick-back through the steering wheel that I always felt before wasn't there either!!
I would guess that the strut brace stiffens the chassis to keep the front alignment a little more 'honest' during hard cornering.

msch

Curious question: What are people's opinions on the triangular brace?

Coleman

überkill? I think the triangular one is a bit much.. if the factory uses a simple bar, that is most likely fine....