Advice needed for brake/gas pedal height.
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Advice needed for brake/gas pedal height.
With the position so that my left leg can push the clutch the pedal all the way down, the brake/gas pedals are too high for my right leg. Now with the wings pedal installed, my right leg has to fold even more while driving. I want to lower both pedals as low as possible and I understand the brake pedal needs enough space for hard braking. Is there anything else I need to watch for?
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I am actually looking for opinions/experiences from people who may have done this or think having the the pedals too low may cause some difficulties in driving. Sorry if I didn't ask clearly.
I know how to adjust the heights but since you mentioned DIY section in Robin's site, I tried to look but couldn't find it. What did I miss?
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I know how to adjust the heights but since you mentioned DIY section in Robin's site, I tried to look but couldn't find it. What did I miss?
thx
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I would respectfully suggest that all you need is more practice.
Unless your legs are significantly different lengths, I would expect that when you can push the clutch pedal to the floor, you can also push the brake pedal to the floor (which you certainly want to be able to do).
I've practiced "heel-toe" down-shifting on the street for the last 6 months or so to get ready for my first DE. At first I swore it was impossible with the pedals as they were positioned (and was well on the way to convincing myself that new pedals were a must). Well, I couldn't decide on the pedals to buy but I kept practicing. I now find it's not so bad at all (not easy yet but practice makes perfect).
Unless your legs are significantly different lengths, I would expect that when you can push the clutch pedal to the floor, you can also push the brake pedal to the floor (which you certainly want to be able to do).
I've practiced "heel-toe" down-shifting on the street for the last 6 months or so to get ready for my first DE. At first I swore it was impossible with the pedals as they were positioned (and was well on the way to convincing myself that new pedals were a must). Well, I couldn't decide on the pedals to buy but I kept practicing. I now find it's not so bad at all (not easy yet but practice makes perfect).
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hn,
I'm not sure where your clutch engages, but mine is somewhere slightly below the middle travel of the clutch. For me because my legs are very short, the clutch travel was too far down, so I created a clutch stopper. I used a nut and bolt with super large washers and screwed them into the wood floorboard. I can adjust by simply turning the bolt and washers.
<img src="http://www.nelsonlee.org/stuff/clutchstop.jpg" alt=" - " />
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I'm not sure where your clutch engages, but mine is somewhere slightly below the middle travel of the clutch. For me because my legs are very short, the clutch travel was too far down, so I created a clutch stopper. I used a nut and bolt with super large washers and screwed them into the wood floorboard. I can adjust by simply turning the bolt and washers.
<img src="http://www.nelsonlee.org/stuff/clutchstop.jpg" alt=" - " />
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All I've had to adjust is the brake pedal to allow heel-and-toe braking/shifting. Haven't had to adjust anything else. No dopey wings in the car. Shifting/braking/gas are all beautiful location for me.
Admittedly I have short legs. I believe others with long legs have trouble; friend of mine sold his 993 due to getting leg cramps in his left leg (still has a rear-engine Porsche but a newer water pumper).
Admittedly I have short legs. I believe others with long legs have trouble; friend of mine sold his 993 due to getting leg cramps in his left leg (still has a rear-engine Porsche but a newer water pumper).
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I remember when I took my car to a DE, I couldn't believe how easy it was for my instructor to heel/toe with my stock pedals and pedal height. I was in awe.
I think that you should stick with the stock heights for a little longer and practice a little bit more.
Are you using your heel or using the side of your foot for the gas? You may want to try both methods.
Jeff
I think that you should stick with the stock heights for a little longer and practice a little bit more.
Are you using your heel or using the side of your foot for the gas? You may want to try both methods.
Jeff
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ray Calvo:
<strong>friend of mine sold his 993 due to getting leg cramps in his left leg (still has a rear-engine Porsche but a newer water pumper).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Those 996 clutches are soooo easy! Reminded me of the clutch on my honda when I first drove it.
Jeff
<strong>friend of mine sold his 993 due to getting leg cramps in his left leg (still has a rear-engine Porsche but a newer water pumper).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Those 996 clutches are soooo easy! Reminded me of the clutch on my honda when I first drove it.
Jeff
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When I first bought my car the clutch took a great deal of effort to get the pedal to move. It gave my leg a real work-out (and my wife hated it). When I had the RS LWF and clutch installed, I at first thought something was very wrong - the clutch was as easy to depress as my old Prelude or the 325is. The ease of actuation was a very nice non-performance related benefit of the change!
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I used to get leg scramps but not anymore. I can heel and toe (with heel) with the oem pedals/height but sometimes I do miss when wearing certain shoes. The wings pedal helps this problem. My problem is that I got tired with my right leg fold up a little too much during cruising on the highway. I don't know if it's just my car but the clutch pedal can go almost to the foor and doesn't matter how hard I press on the brake pedal, it could never go that low. I know the clutch doesn't have to go all the way down before shifting but I just feel safer that way. The way the pedals positioned now, regardless short legs or long legs, the difference in heights is just too much. I guess I just have to play with different settings to see which one I feel most comfortable with. First try will be lowing the brake and gas pedals all the way down to the relatively acceptable level to see if my right leg can stretch out a little more without causing any difficulties while driving.
The best solution I think is to adjust the clutch pedal upward but it's not possible, is it?
Thx for all the replies.
The best solution I think is to adjust the clutch pedal upward but it's not possible, is it?
Thx for all the replies.
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Just finished adjusting the pedals. The brake pedal could only be adjusted downward so much (1/2" or so, may be the po already done this) so that it's still in contacts the brake light switch. However, I found something very interesting (to me). While the clutch pedal couldn't be adjusted, there is a stop that could be adjusted to prevent the clutch pedal going too low. On the back of the wooden floor, at the top of the cut out slot for clutch pedal, there's a metal plate secured by 2 little hex bolts. By loosing these 2 bolts, the plate can be moved up or down to control how low the clutch pedal can go down. I had the plate set at the maximum downward position which shorten the clutch pedal's travel distance by at least 1/2". This also means my clutch engages earlier which I refer. With my brake/gas pedals also adjusted all the way down as much as possible, I now have a perfect set up. I can sit away more from the steering wheel and feel both of my legs stretched out to the same distance in a much more natural position. I am very pleased with the result, the best reward I ever get for 20 mins of work.
Nels, unless you've already done this, you may be able to get rid of the screw by adusting the stop of the clutch pedal
Thx everyone,
Nels, unless you've already done this, you may be able to get rid of the screw by adusting the stop of the clutch pedal
Thx everyone,