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Old 10-05-2021, 06:01 PM
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Good topic to understand. I came close to buying another 993 this summer. Bought a paint meter and determined the car was repainted lots of places. No records.

You seem to be on the right track of understanding.
Old 10-05-2021, 06:09 PM
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Ceramic coating, as long as it's not a botch job won't. Your talking nano meters.

PPF on the other hand will add an additional 4 to 6 value to the paint thickness # reading spending on the type of film used.
Old 10-05-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Paolo1
a minor tangent...can someone recommend a specific model paint meter to pick up?
elcometer is the gold standard. admissable in court cases iso 9000 etc...
be mindful if you require ferous and non ferous
Old 10-05-2021, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbodan
elcometer is the gold standard. admissable in court cases iso 9000 etc...
be mindful if you require ferous and non ferous
I'm sure everyone here needs a $1,500 paint meter admissible in court to see if their 993 has a repainted fender. Good recommendation.
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I bought this one...I've yet to compare with readings on my car from seller (elcometer) and PPI shop.

Paint Coating Thickness Gauge Meter Data Logger with 1500 Readings, Fe NFe 2 in 1 Automatic Digital Aluminum Steel Paint Thickness Tester with Color Screen
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My car has a clean car fax and has not had any major paint work. It is a low mileage car with excellent paint.

When I got the car there was a scuff on the rear bumper, a scuff on the drivers door mirror, some scuffs on the drives door rocker panel. There was a dime sized rust spot at the lower passenger windshield.

I hated those imperfections, and after careful documentation took the car to a very well respected Porsche restoration specialist (several wins at Pebble Beach).

The car looks infinitely better with the corrections and touch ups. I can’t imagine that anyone would rather the car with the imperfections. I paid good money to have that cosmetic work completed.

How is paint work any different than an engine rebuild? Or a suspension refresh? I’d much rather have my Porsche engine and suspension assembled by Hans in Germany back in the day, than by whoever in some small time garage.

The quality of ANY work done to any car is what is important. My car is polar silver. I learned that Porsche polar silver isn’t necessarily all the same from the factory. Kenny made about a dozen sample tiles, one foot squares, and we placed them on various parts of the car in different light conditions. One or two completely disappeared into the paint. That takes time and effort…. But you simply can not tell the car has had work done.

I can understand not wanting a car that has been hit. To say a cosmetic touch up in some way devalues the car is silly.

Let’s take a do-at-home pole:

If you have your 993 in a museum collection, or routinely show it at Pebble beach….Post a photo here!
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Originally Posted by aircooledpurist
My car has a clean car fax and has not had any major paint work. It is a low mileage car with excellent paint.

When I got the car there was a scuff on the rear bumper, a scuff on the drivers door mirror, some scuffs on the drives door rocker panel. There was a dime sized rust spot at the lower passenger windshield.

I hated those imperfections, and after careful documentation took the car to a very well respected Porsche restoration specialist (several wins at Pebble Beach).

The car looks infinitely better with the corrections and touch ups. I can’t imagine that anyone would rather the car with the imperfections. I paid good money to have that cosmetic work completed.

How is paint work any different than an engine rebuild? Or a suspension refresh? I’d much rather have my Porsche engine and suspension assembled by Hans in Germany back in the day, than by whoever in some small time garage.

The quality of ANY work done to any car is what is important. My car is polar silver. I learned that Porsche polar silver isn’t necessarily all the same from the factory. Kenny made about a dozen sample tiles, one foot squares, and we placed them on various parts of the car in different light conditions. One or two completely disappeared into the paint. That takes time and effort…. But you simply can not tell the car has had work done.

I can understand not wanting a car that has been hit. To say a cosmetic touch up in some way devalues the car is silly.

Let’s take a do-at-home pole:

If you have your 993 in a museum collection, or routinely show it at Pebble beach….Post a photo here!
In the Porsche world, paintwork is blown out of proportion a bit. Yes, quality of the work is what matters. The largest concern for most buyers is that something doesn't show up on CarFax that was an actual accident. But then there's those that are collecting cars that want an all original example. If you put two cars side by side, the same price, mileage, etc, one that has paintwork and one that doesn't, most would want the one that doesn't have paintwork (or an engine rebuild). Now, in the real world, there will never ben two identical examples next to each other, so this doesn't really become a relevant point anymore.

My guess is this started because someone had a paint meter, either for purchasing a collector car with super low miles, or to be sure it hadn't been in an accident that wasn't on CarFax and then later on someone that really had no idea why you want a car without paintwork was buying a car and just blindly said that they shouldn't buy a car without paintwork.

Unfortunately the obsession with no paintwork cars tends to hurt everyone in the market since those with no paintwork cars are more afraid to drive them and lowering the values if they need to have a repaint, which is almost inevitable at some point.



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