What's worth more right now 4S or 2S? Everything else being equal.
08-07-2021, 08:05 PM
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Some facts:
4S has
- Turbo Big Reds
- ADB
- All are manual gearboxes
It is slower than the 2S, but it stops faster in all conditions, and the AWD system help with deceleration as well as acceleration.
I have two of them. one of them has the 2S' split grill - best of both worlds :-)
4S has
- Turbo Big Reds
- ADB
- All are manual gearboxes
It is slower than the 2S, but it stops faster in all conditions, and the AWD system help with deceleration as well as acceleration.
I have two of them. one of them has the 2S' split grill - best of both worlds :-)
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08-07-2021, 08:38 PM
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The value has nothing to do with the brakes or the number of driven wheels- sorry...
08-07-2021, 08:46 PM
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Ok guys “chill out” ….. many many many other 911s are “parts bin” cars…. Hell…. Look at the 964! Nothing but… parts bin parts from the 80’s 911s and Singer chose the 964 as their flagship. It’s an “acronym” sheeesh! Not trying to put the C2S down in any way. It’s a Wide Body C2.
A “C2S” is nothing but a C2 with a Wide Body Shell “PERIOD!” Why is that more special than the C4S? Explain that to me? I keep hearing “complexity of the AWD System” that right there is complete rubbish! Superior Braking System over the C2S as well and Suspension. Car handles like you are on rails and I have driven the C2S many many times and nowhere near as planted especially in wet conditions. Honestly, regardless of numbers produced….Why? How is a C2S worth more? Not trying to come off as an A$$ either. This debate has been raging since 1997. Everyone needs to quit being “butt hurt” and provide hard facts as to why the C2S is better than the C4S. ***LETS DISCUSS****
A “C2S” is nothing but a C2 with a Wide Body Shell “PERIOD!” Why is that more special than the C4S? Explain that to me? I keep hearing “complexity of the AWD System” that right there is complete rubbish! Superior Braking System over the C2S as well and Suspension. Car handles like you are on rails and I have driven the C2S many many times and nowhere near as planted especially in wet conditions. Honestly, regardless of numbers produced….Why? How is a C2S worth more? Not trying to come off as an A$$ either. This debate has been raging since 1997. Everyone needs to quit being “butt hurt” and provide hard facts as to why the C2S is better than the C4S. ***LETS DISCUSS****
And if you care to read carefully, you'd know I'm not saying C2S will always be worth more or be more special than C4S. Simply I'm saying one cannot and should not make a conclusive statement about which version is more valuable.
Onto the subject of discussion, please note that C2S also has the Turbo suspension, just not the brakes. C4S has a logical need for Turbo brakes given it's AWD and slightly heavier build.
Last edited by mdude; 08-07-2021 at 08:49 PM.
08-07-2021, 08:53 PM
#19
Value is in the eyes of the beholder - what is someone's pride and joy 1 year might be for sale on the way out the door the next year.
Do you enjoy your car because it worth more than another? Would you enjoy it less if it was?
Most of us will outlive our money, which in many ways is a shame if you never enjoyed it.
My Dad never earned more than $30K/year, would tie his shoelaces in knots as opposed to buying a new pair.
Back in the 70's he died with over 1mil ion assets - having lived through the depression he "enjoyed" the security of a nest egg.
For some people, it's important that a 2S is worth more than a 4S and vice versa, does it really matter - they were meant to be driven and enjoyed for what they are - cars.
Do you enjoy your car because it worth more than another? Would you enjoy it less if it was?
Most of us will outlive our money, which in many ways is a shame if you never enjoyed it.
My Dad never earned more than $30K/year, would tie his shoelaces in knots as opposed to buying a new pair.
Back in the 70's he died with over 1mil ion assets - having lived through the depression he "enjoyed" the security of a nest egg.
For some people, it's important that a 2S is worth more than a 4S and vice versa, does it really matter - they were meant to be driven and enjoyed for what they are - cars.
Last edited by crw; 08-07-2021 at 08:54 PM.
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08-07-2021, 10:52 PM
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I am fortunate enough to own 3x 993 C4S and 2x 993 C2S. Many benefits for both as have already been mentioned. The 4S handles like it is on rails, better in wet conditions, better brakes, ABD/LSD standard. It’s also heavier and it definitely feels slower. The C2S is really fun to drive in dry conditions, especially when you feel like getting a little rowdy and tail happy. As others have said it is also more of a purist feel with the RWD. I do feel more comfortable pushing a C4S on mountain roads or in wet conditions. I love driving a C2S on a dry sunny day though. These cars are all amazing. To answer the original question though, most would agree that all else being equal the C2S would be a little more valuable.
08-07-2021, 10:57 PM
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I am fortunate enough to own 3x 993 C4S and 2x 993 C2S. Many benefits for both as have already been mentioned. The 4S handles like it is on rails, better in wet conditions, better brakes, ABD/LSD standard. It’s also heavier and it definitely feels slower. The C2S is really fun to drive in dry conditions, especially when you feel like getting a little rowdy and tail happy. As others have said it is also more of a purist feel with the RWD. I do feel more comfortable pushing a C4S on mountain roads or in wet conditions. I love driving a C2S on a dry sunny day though. These cars are all amazing. To answer the original question though, most would agree that all else being equal the C2S would be a little more valuable.
08-07-2021, 11:06 PM
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Sad to see folks arguing over whose car is better. We’re all so lucky to drive these cars.
I drive a 964 and a C2S, both apparently parts bin cars, ha. I wouldn’t trade or sell either of them.