tstafford

I can't comment on GW, but I wouldn't describe the donor cars that Singer uses as "solid specimens". They are straight but that's about all they have to be. Singer doesn't source the donor cars. That's on the client to do although they can recommend folks to help make that process pretty easy. My donor was a ratty car with 121K on the clock, cracked tail lights, etc. The car wasn't a complete POS but it also wasn't something most folks would want to drive.

Churchill

I don't get it. I sort of get the V1 Singers -- it's a longhood(ish) looking 911 with GT3 performance. That's a simple, attractive concept. A 993 that retains the attractive lines and proportions of the 993 but has GT3 performance (and nicer materials for the interior) would be a good concept.

max911

Needs more clichés.


Sounds great, though.

MarinS4

Singer seems to have nailed early visual proportions perfectly. Guntherwerks on the other hand comes across as cartoonish. I also believe they went to far trying to fix what was not broken. I personally feel the 993 widebody would benefit from slightly wider front fenders to balance the car out ala 930 style. Perhaps a custom carbon fiber wing/deck lid combination. Getting that right would be tough too. Some variation or copy of the RS one would be a step in the right direction. The 993 interior could use some love. I plan on recovering my sparco EVO2 shells in leather and alcantera. Then add alcantera to door panel insert (hifi option) to tie it all in. Spice up the power train to taste and various RS suspension bits with PSS10’s. You could have one hell of a dream machine for $100-150k. No need to spend 500k to achive your own version of 993 perfection.

SwayBar

I really like how the GW looks...

It looks and sounds like a racecar!

fineito

It's a striking car, IMO.

If I had a spare $0.5+ M to spend on a car, I surely would consider GW, or Singer, for that matter, and other alternatives, like the 997.2 GT3 RS 4.0 that Chsu74 mentioned. I also appreciate JB 911's engineering perspective. No bad choices for those fortunate who can play in this league.

mdude

That's precisely the perspective of those with limited means -- aka us. Just imagine what 1/2 mil can buy? A really pristine rare color 993WB, a Cayman 718 as a daily, an Audi Allroad for family hauling, a RAM Limited to tow the Polaris, an MR2/S2000 for a change in daily flavor, and an NSX to fulfill our teenage dreams; with enough spare change to spiff up the garage plus a 4 post lift.

And that's precisely why mortals like us will never own a Singer or Guntherwerks...

dantonio

I appreciate a lot about the Guntherwerks car - the engine (obviously), the craftsmanship seems impeccable on the body and interior, and the engineering behind the chassis is impressive as well.

BUT. Does anyone else think that 11” front wheels and 13” rear wheels, with such a ridiculously wide track and short wheel base seems a bit unusual? I can only imagine how this would feel tramlining over imperfect roads. And I wonder if the extreme level of grip takes some of the fun out of the car. They’ve crammed super car components and running gear into a small sports car. Just seems to defeat the purpose of a nimble little 911.

I’d be much more interested in a Guntherwerks “light”. Focus on the weight reduction, high quality finishing, overhauled motor (but not to this extreme), and maybe offer it for half the price? Seems like then you’d have a more attractive alternative for people who are willing to spend 200-250k on a new 911 GT.

Kika

Not so much mere mortals, but in so many ways, just doesn't make good financial sense, I can't even imagine what the Insurance would cost on something like that.

fsa

I have seen several in person, and up close, inside and out, RR in 2018 and at Rothsport. The fronts are particularly bulbous, as are the rears. Carbon fiber all over, good finishing.
Gunther's are likely overpriced in this market. When conceived and designed, the 993 market and U.S. economy were not sliding or as unpredictable. SInger's crazy prices and long order backlog got others into the re-skinning game.
The engines are jewels, and Jeff's genius extracted 31-more horsepower than originally intended and advertised.
Rothsport will build you a like engine, or something very close, for hundreds of thousands less!