CARRERA 2 OR 4?
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As I recall, arctic silver not available 95 or 96. Those cars, including my '95 C4, are polar silver, which has a slight blue cast.
In my opinion, Porsche didn't design the C4 to make the car worse than a C2. The first version, the 964 C4, had a high-tech electronic center diff, and those cars understeer like crazy. (Yes, I had one.) The 993 uses a simpler center diff and does not have an understeer problem. Although like many 993 owners I have upsized my front tires from 205 to 225.
Both times I have bought a 993 I specifically searched out a narrow body C4, which to me is the ultimate non-turbo 993.
As far as performance, in the dry a C2 might be 2% faster. In the wet, a C4 is 20% faster. (Note: I just made those numbers up, but you get the idea.)
In my opinion, Porsche didn't design the C4 to make the car worse than a C2. The first version, the 964 C4, had a high-tech electronic center diff, and those cars understeer like crazy. (Yes, I had one.) The 993 uses a simpler center diff and does not have an understeer problem. Although like many 993 owners I have upsized my front tires from 205 to 225.
Both times I have bought a 993 I specifically searched out a narrow body C4, which to me is the ultimate non-turbo 993.
As far as performance, in the dry a C2 might be 2% faster. In the wet, a C4 is 20% faster. (Note: I just made those numbers up, but you get the idea.)
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There are purists who prefer a RWD 911. That you're even asking says you're not in that group.
As far as how the cars compare, I don't believe any person driving a 993 on the street could tell the difference between the RWD and AWD variants, save for driving in wet/icy conditions when more power may be sent to the front wheels in a C4. In my years on this forum, I recall few if any threads about AWD failures that required costly repairs. Perhaps the only measurable difference between the two is the extra ~100 lb. curb weight of the AWD variants.
As others have said, once you've decided on certain criteria (manual + coupe, in your case), your best bet is to buy the best 993 in your budget, irrespective of RWD vs AWD.
As far as how the cars compare, I don't believe any person driving a 993 on the street could tell the difference between the RWD and AWD variants, save for driving in wet/icy conditions when more power may be sent to the front wheels in a C4. In my years on this forum, I recall few if any threads about AWD failures that required costly repairs. Perhaps the only measurable difference between the two is the extra ~100 lb. curb weight of the AWD variants.
As others have said, once you've decided on certain criteria (manual + coupe, in your case), your best bet is to buy the best 993 in your budget, irrespective of RWD vs AWD.
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In response to the 964 technology-laden, complex, heavy and unreliable 4 wheel drive Porsche went to a simpler older design that provided to be a bulletproof and light weight for the 993.
Taking this into account for me, a DIY guy the purchase decision is a six-of-one, a half-dozen-of-the-other in terms of desirability.
Seeing that these cars are 25 years old, I would look at both and the one found in the best condition within your budget should drive you to one or the other as a purchase.
Andy
Taking this into account for me, a DIY guy the purchase decision is a six-of-one, a half-dozen-of-the-other in terms of desirability.
Seeing that these cars are 25 years old, I would look at both and the one found in the best condition within your budget should drive you to one or the other as a purchase.
Andy
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Before you asked your question, I wanted to ask the reasoning that no C-4 Cabriolet's were manufactured in the model years 1996 and 1997 and why so few 1998 models were manufactured relative to 1995?
Further, I would like to know the current value, pre covid-19, of the single 1997 C-4 Coupe.
Further, I would like to know the current value, pre covid-19, of the single 1997 C-4 Coupe.
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If daily driving in a part of the country with bad weather - C4. If nice weather or a point A to A car only - C2.
I initially had a 997 C4S b/c it was my daily driver in Chicago w/ winter shoes. When I got the 993 I wasn't going to subject it to that type of abuse and wanted a C2.
The C4 braking system is different. Higher pressure and trickier to work on. I think replacement units are big $s also. Having said that - I have no idea how frequently they need repair. Could be almost never and a mute point.
I initially had a 997 C4S b/c it was my daily driver in Chicago w/ winter shoes. When I got the 993 I wasn't going to subject it to that type of abuse and wanted a C2.
The C4 braking system is different. Higher pressure and trickier to work on. I think replacement units are big $s also. Having said that - I have no idea how frequently they need repair. Could be almost never and a mute point.
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You're right. My '95 C4 cab is a Paint to Sample (PTS) in Silver Metallic, color code 982. It was a color Porsche used from 1986 to 1990. I couldn't figure out why they paid $2,490 for a PTS option that was just a shade or two lighter than Arctic Silver until I found that Arctic Silver wasn't available in '95. Still, nearly $2,500 for a silver PTS?
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The only way to get a non-Polar Silver in 95 was to pay for the Paint to Sample option. My 95 C4 was optioned with PTS Silver which looks like Arctic Silver.
I had a C2 and now a C4 and the main difference for me is now I have a 4 seasons 993 where my previous 993 was put away during the winter. Our winters are milder than Chicago but we still get frosty roads every morning and a few inches of white stuff occasionally. I put on a set of Pirelli Sottozeros anyway and got around just fine though the back end would still step out if pushed too much.
I had a C2 and now a C4 and the main difference for me is now I have a 4 seasons 993 where my previous 993 was put away during the winter. Our winters are milder than Chicago but we still get frosty roads every morning and a few inches of white stuff occasionally. I put on a set of Pirelli Sottozeros anyway and got around just fine though the back end would still step out if pushed too much.
And re 4WD, one never hear people reject the 993 Turbo because it's 4WD!
My Crystal silver 94 993 to the right.
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Because if you really want a 993 Turbo you don’t get a choice - it’s 4WD or nothing. Some consider the 964 Turbo more desirable because it’s 2WD only.