Any idea of how to reduce power steering boost?
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Kim, I asked this question before, and didn't get an answer. My thoughts were that somewhere in the system there's a restrictor valve that controls boost levels... find it, modify it, and you're done.
In the absence of modifying the restrictor valve, you can always go to a smaller diameter steering wheel. I would assume YZ already has that, and that's the route I'm going to try on my car.
In the absence of modifying the restrictor valve, you can always go to a smaller diameter steering wheel. I would assume YZ already has that, and that's the route I'm going to try on my car.
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It is easy Kim. Just install a manual rack from RS America. List on the rack is just over $600. It just bolts right in. If you have ever driven a RS, you would install one....
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Kim,
I wouldn't think that manual steering whould make it "unstreetable," after all, all 911s before 964s were sans boost. Of course, they may (probably) have had different ratios, so I don't know for certain; perhaps an expert could chime in here. But in any event, once you're moving at anything above a walking pace, all older 911s steer pretty lightly. You wouldn't be planning on going around LS at walking pace, now would you (kinda taking that "slow in/slow out" mantra a bit too far, no )
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I wouldn't think that manual steering whould make it "unstreetable," after all, all 911s before 964s were sans boost. Of course, they may (probably) have had different ratios, so I don't know for certain; perhaps an expert could chime in here. But in any event, once you're moving at anything above a walking pace, all older 911s steer pretty lightly. You wouldn't be planning on going around LS at walking pace, now would you (kinda taking that "slow in/slow out" mantra a bit too far, no )
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It must also be the weight distribution difference! You dont have all that weight up front I would agree with Master Bob , a manual rack should not make the car unstreetable, although with your mods you are pretty close
How did the YZ feel on the track after soooo many months of waiting?
How did the YZ feel on the track after soooo many months of waiting?
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as our power steering racks are prone to failure perhaps I should consider this when "that" time comes. Viperbob...would you have a part # for said rack??...is this something you do or would sell????
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I have a non-Pcar where the power steering boost was inadvertently dropped due to a restricted hose on the inlet of the PS pump, and the result was not pleasing. The steering became more numb (and of course heavier). Perhaps the Pcar rack would be different, I don't know.
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Just do the manual rack Kim. I still miss my 911's manual steering and the nose of that car wasn't that much lighter. Eventually this is something I'll do to my car.
It can't be that bad and if U-turns get too hard for you (why do you have to turn back to every good looking woman anyway?), eat more donuts!
It can't be that bad and if U-turns get too hard for you (why do you have to turn back to every good looking woman anyway?), eat more donuts!
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The width of the front tires has alot to do with the steering effort with a manual rack. If you plan to use small 205's, then it'll be easy to steer, but 245's will require alot of muscle...
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as our power steering racks are prone to failure perhaps I should consider this when "that" time comes. Viperbob...would you have a part # for said rack??...is this something you do or would sell????
as our power steering racks are prone to failure perhaps I should consider this when "that" time comes. Viperbob...would you have a part # for said rack??...is this something you do or would sell????
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Originally posted by GrantG
The width of the front tires has alot to do with the steering effort with a manual rack. If you plan to use small 205's, then it'll be easy to steer, but 245's will require alot of muscle...
The width of the front tires has alot to do with the steering effort with a manual rack. If you plan to use small 205's, then it'll be easy to steer, but 245's will require alot of muscle...
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I have read posts on why someone would pay more for a RSA over a "regular" 964 and my answer is the steering (besides the door panels, the tail, the cup wheels, and the seats, which I am replacing, and other stuff). I really can't imagine a better communicating car. I run 235s on the front with no problems. I have a friend with a 993 and when I drive it the steering feels very, very light in comparison (not that there is anything wrong with that! I would rather have his if I needed a daily driver). Sometimes I have to remember that I am in the minority in that I like non-power steering, suspension that is harsh, but more importantly communicative, and high decibel levels (I yanked out all the sound insulation).
I would love to drive a 993 Turbo with a RSA steering rack. I would probably break out my "O" face.
I would love to drive a 993 Turbo with a RSA steering rack. I would probably break out my "O" face.
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I know what you mean, Kim. The overboosted steering takes away a measure of enjoyment and purity of interaction. One of the things that I loved (and miss) about my '85 Carrera is the feel of the manual steering. I know of at least one local and highly respected club racer who, despite the admonitions of many on Rennlist, removed the power steering pump to his 964 and successfully piloted his car in competition.