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How many of these cars were produced? I am contemplating buying one and the choice is either a 95 993 RS (There are 2 avaliable) or a 96 993 C4S.
I know that the RS is a lot more difficult to live with but I just love the driving experience as well as the bespoke rims, body, gear ratios, 3.8l engine etc.
Of the total produced, how many were RHD ones?
In terms of usage, I will use the car daily to work (< 10 km) and on the weekends for drives. There is another car ( a BMW sedan) for the family (just the wife and a 6 month old baby)
I know that the RS is a lot more difficult to live with but I just love the driving experience as well as the bespoke rims, body, gear ratios, 3.8l engine etc.
Of the total produced, how many were RHD ones?
In terms of usage, I will use the car daily to work (< 10 km) and on the weekends for drives. There is another car ( a BMW sedan) for the family (just the wife and a 6 month old baby)
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There is no question about it. Had I been the one with the choice, I'd take an RS over any other 993. There is nothing like a lightweight and nimble machine. Hopefully, the less than 10 km commute everyday is not too taxing either.
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Tried both cars that are for sale. The car was like an animal, huge feedback from the steering with the car following every little crevice on the road. Also the combination of light weight and extra power and torque gave the car a significant increase in thrust.
I think the only danger with the daily commute is keeping the licence clean!
Thanx very much for the advice. Hopefully will be able to report on what I eventually buy soon.
I think the only danger with the daily commute is keeping the licence clean!
Thanx very much for the advice. Hopefully will be able to report on what I eventually buy soon.
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To JWKC,
both cars are regular versions(w/o roll cage etc) but have club sport front and rear wings fitted and come with factory fitted airconditioning, power windows and airbags(2)
both cars are regular versions(w/o roll cage etc) but have club sport front and rear wings fitted and come with factory fitted airconditioning, power windows and airbags(2)
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Leslie,
Its got AC. Enough said. Grab that RS. I have never driven the RS but from the stats reeled out by others, it sounds great. 10km on your roads, albeit crowded, is not going to be that rough from my brief acquaintance with Singapore. Besides, in the unlikely event that you do not like it, you can always unload it - it will probably hold its value well.
PS> Vested interest here..Can I check it out when I next visit S'pore?
Its got AC. Enough said. Grab that RS. I have never driven the RS but from the stats reeled out by others, it sounds great. 10km on your roads, albeit crowded, is not going to be that rough from my brief acquaintance with Singapore. Besides, in the unlikely event that you do not like it, you can always unload it - it will probably hold its value well.
PS> Vested interest here..Can I check it out when I next visit S'pore?
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leslie,
Take the RS,IT will be nice to have the RS club sport body kit!.It look a lot more aggressive and sporty that the Stock RS body.
The only things are the interior which are a little less attractive without some of the luxury and comfort equipment![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Take the RS,IT will be nice to have the RS club sport body kit!.It look a lot more aggressive and sporty that the Stock RS body.
The only things are the interior which are a little less attractive without some of the luxury and comfort equipment
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Hey all -- does my Avatar and User Name say it all? I own a 1992 Carrera RS Club Sport and just sold my 1996 Carrera RS (yes, I imported it from Germany in 2002 to the USA and drove it to work in Texas). I also have a 1999 GT3 Club Sport (currently for sale).
I can tell you all from first-hand driving experience with all three RS/Club Sport cars of the 1990's -- Leslie is correct that the steering input, agile weight (2700+ pounds), and overall feel of the 993 RS is unbeatable. Don't get me wrong, the GT3 is awesome -- but if you're a purist, you want the 993 RS. The 993 is fun to drive because its 500 pounds lighter than the GT3 which means you can "toss it" in corners and its responds like a race car. You want to respect the car (they're valuable enough that you don't want to crash it), but its definitely a great driving car that will be the conversation piece wherever you show up. Every US Porsche Club event I ever attended with that car (Speed Yellow or course) ended up attracting people wanting to know if it was "real" (the triple "ZZZ" in the VIN# was one clue).
I wouldn't over-pay for a 993RS (e.g. more than 75,000 Euro's) -- but if you can get one, do it. Personally, I love the Club Sport spoiler kit option and picking a color like Riviera Blue, Speed Yellow, etc. However the more conservative types may not agree.
By the way, remove the leather sport seats and wrap them in plastic and buy a set of Recaro's (Nomex or leather) and you'll drop the car's weight to about 2650 pounds and they are actually more supportive. I drove for 2 years with Recaro's in my 993RS and never regretted putting them in the car.
I can tell you all from first-hand driving experience with all three RS/Club Sport cars of the 1990's -- Leslie is correct that the steering input, agile weight (2700+ pounds), and overall feel of the 993 RS is unbeatable. Don't get me wrong, the GT3 is awesome -- but if you're a purist, you want the 993 RS. The 993 is fun to drive because its 500 pounds lighter than the GT3 which means you can "toss it" in corners and its responds like a race car. You want to respect the car (they're valuable enough that you don't want to crash it), but its definitely a great driving car that will be the conversation piece wherever you show up. Every US Porsche Club event I ever attended with that car (Speed Yellow or course) ended up attracting people wanting to know if it was "real" (the triple "ZZZ" in the VIN# was one clue).
I wouldn't over-pay for a 993RS (e.g. more than 75,000 Euro's) -- but if you can get one, do it. Personally, I love the Club Sport spoiler kit option and picking a color like Riviera Blue, Speed Yellow, etc. However the more conservative types may not agree.
By the way, remove the leather sport seats and wrap them in plastic and buy a set of Recaro's (Nomex or leather) and you'll drop the car's weight to about 2650 pounds and they are actually more supportive. I drove for 2 years with Recaro's in my 993RS and never regretted putting them in the car.
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I have both 96 993 RS and a 96 993 4S. As a point of comparison, I also have a 997 GT3 and a 964 Turbo S Lightweight (essentially a 964 RS w/an enhanced turbo engine).
No contest in my book, in terms of pure driving fun the 993 RS outshines the others (although I consider the 993 4S as my daily driver). Light, strong, agile, tactile.
In most markets the the 4S and the RS are in completely different price ranges - is there a big price delta between the two in Singapore?
No contest in my book, in terms of pure driving fun the 993 RS outshines the others (although I consider the 993 4S as my daily driver). Light, strong, agile, tactile.
In most markets the the 4S and the RS are in completely different price ranges - is there a big price delta between the two in Singapore?
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The 993 C4S trades for between USD100k to USD150k here, depending on condition. There are 5 left in Singapore, all registered in 1996. 6 others have been exported, as far as I know.
I think there is only 1 RS left in Singapore, a 1995 car. Rumour has it that the current owner was offered a whole chunk of change for it, but didn't want to sell. I suspect the offer was at least twice the last done for a pristine C4S... A few other RSs, including the one that Leslie eventually bought, have been exported.
A lot of 993s and other cars have been exported out of Singapore to other markets like Australia and New Zealand, as many cars registered here in the mid 90s had a high "paper value" i.e. the permit to register a car (auctioned off by the Government in accordance to a yearly quota designed to control the rate of increase of the car population) cost around USD80k at its peak. During the Asian crisis of 1997 and subsequent stock market crashes, owners could recover this paper value on a pro-rated basis, which, when added to the export value of the car body, was more than they could have fetched by selling the car in Singapore.
I think there is only 1 RS left in Singapore, a 1995 car. Rumour has it that the current owner was offered a whole chunk of change for it, but didn't want to sell. I suspect the offer was at least twice the last done for a pristine C4S... A few other RSs, including the one that Leslie eventually bought, have been exported.
A lot of 993s and other cars have been exported out of Singapore to other markets like Australia and New Zealand, as many cars registered here in the mid 90s had a high "paper value" i.e. the permit to register a car (auctioned off by the Government in accordance to a yearly quota designed to control the rate of increase of the car population) cost around USD80k at its peak. During the Asian crisis of 1997 and subsequent stock market crashes, owners could recover this paper value on a pro-rated basis, which, when added to the export value of the car body, was more than they could have fetched by selling the car in Singapore.