my911.net

Hi guys and gals

If interested please write in to elias@911porsche.com

cheers

duc916

It would be a short lived domain name with the Porsche corporate lawyers swimming around.

Ray Calvo

[quote] It would be a short lived domain name with the Porsche corporate lawyers swimming around.<hr></blockquote>

Tend to agree - what was this site called before "Rennlist"?

I have witnessed personally PCNA going after local companies that use the P* name in their company name, or that show rear engine air cooled cars in their advertising (one person got into trouble even showing his personal 911 in his company advertising!!).

pmcgrath

agree with the above. I got a nasty gram from porsche for registing a domain that included the word Porshce......

my911.net

Hi all

thanks for your input. But I thought domain names where beyond all that, especially the .com's. How can porsche have control over what a domain that someone not from germany buys not in germany. I had heard your horror stories from germans in germany, but I thought outside this country the lawyers dont have a leg to stand on.

do they also send nasties if you have 911 in your domain/company name?

what if my name is or I change my name legally to "porsche"?

how come other names get away with it - try seaching for, say, citroen, or volvo or any other car names and you will find countless domains such as volvoclubcanada.com, etc, etc. - is it just the "german/porsche" bully attitude?

thanks for all your input

pmcgrath

Porsche went all the way with the lawsuits.....Porsche is a registed trademark. Has are all the other "names" Porsche just did something about it.......and won

Robert Henriksen

Hey, want to see something funny?

<a href="http://www.nissan.com" target="_blank">http://www.nissan.com</a>

Robin 993DX

Robert,

Thank you for the lead! I went to their web site and looks like they are a computer reseller located in North Carolina which is in my office's sales territory....

I've already passed the lead to one of my sales people to do some follow up.

Man, this Rennlist community do provide more than just valuable car information!

KC993

[quote]Originally posted by Robert Henriksen:
<strong>Hey, want to see something funny?

<a href="http://www.nissan.com" target="_blank">http://www.nissan.com</a></strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />

Maybe I should sue Heinz for their use of KC Masterpiece Sauce before they sue me... <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> <img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" />

Allen

Hey Robin...I guess you can now submit Rennlist membership dues on your expense report. <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Dave Crellin

I hate to be a sourpuss.... but having been on the other side of the domain-name story, I think that Porsche's stance is predictable and probably right.

As with any brand one has to protect it's usage, and it's impossible to draw a line between "ordinary use" (which is what many normal people would want to show off their car etc) and "brand dilution" with people using the brand for their own gain, and everything in between.

At my company, for example, we had some people buy every combination of product name, company name, e, e-, m, m- etc with a view to reselling at a profit.

The reality of the web is that domain names etc contribute to the brand value of products and companies, esp .com addresses. Previous usage, international recognition of brands etc have case law and precedence for them.

sorry, but Porsche is trying to maintain the integrity of it's brand.

I'll get off my <img src="graemlins/soapbox.gif" border="0" alt="[soapbox]" /> now.

Phil

Dave,
You are absoutly correct. right on. Porsche was probably the first to actually do something about a few years ago, and they had a tremendous amount of success

STLPCA

If anyone has any interest to wade through the linked materials, it contains an interesting view of this issue. In this 1999 case Porsche's lawsuit was dismissed on jurisdictional grounds - it incorrectly sued the websites in the district of their registration instead of the owners of the sites.

<a href="http://www.mama-tech.com/pc.html" target="_blank">PCNA v. a long list of domain names</a>

And, if that didn't put you to sleep:

<a href="http://www.mama-tech.com/antipiracy.html" target="_blank"> Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act - ACPA</a>

so, elias - good luck to you and 911Porsche.com

my911.net

Hi guys

ok, point taken... <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

how about the number "911" - do they have a right to that too?

I know that originally P were going to start with 901 and Peugeot came along and said: "no, no, we have rights to all 3 digit #s with a 0 in the middle", so P said: "ok, call it 911!!".

...but, are people with the # "911" in their domains being chased by Porsche too?

thanks for your input

Dave Crellin

They have the right in the context of the product class, ie automobiles. So emergency phone numbers don't conflict with Porsche's rights, but Peugeot's use of 901 would have, for example.

By the token, someone called Porsche could use the name, but it would be difficult to argue that if you changed your name to Porsche and there was any hint of riding on the back of the car brand.