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If You Take the Time, Rhonda at FVD will Get a BETTER Chip for Your Car, Designated to You Mods, Same or less $$ than Wrong Wong,( said I could only get a little out of a non VR).
I Got Great Power out of a 95 on 91 Oct, (just sold it) Car had just a Few of the Right Mods (again IMO) Not a Lot of $$. Filter, TB & Cats, Looked Stock & Passed CA All Day.
I Designed a Simple set up (less is more) for a non VR & s wrong didn't wanna here my suggestions, I politely hung up & weeks later make Crank to wheels...
I wanted More than Market for My Car Because of it's Condition & other $$ spent, Basically a Touring Build, Local Buyer wasn't to Interested (too high$$), Drove it & Bought It.
I have a 10 GT3 & miss the 95 already....
I just installed a second hand Wong Chip that I bought from a fellow Rennlister. There is certainly a noticeable improvement in acceleration and throttle response. There is not a significant improvement but it is noticeable. I did have to dump a bottle of octane booster in because it was knocking. I had 91 octane in the tank. I will try 93 at my next fillup,
Luckily you heard it, most times you don't! And that's what a little high school auto shop knowledge, a PC, and an internet app for "engine tuning" yields,
i.e. "performance" chips with compromised engines.
If You Take the Time, Rhonda at FVD will Get a BETTER Chip for Your Car, Designated to You Mods, Same or less $$ than Wrong Wong,( said I could only get a little out of a non VR).
I Got Great Power out of a 95 on 91 Oct, (just sold it) Car had just a Few of the Right Mods (again IMO) Not a Lot of $$. Filter, TB & Cats, Looked Stock & Passed CA All Day.
I Designed a Simple set up (less is more) for a non VR & s wrong didn't wanna here my suggestions, I politely hung up & weeks later make Crank to wheels...
I wanted More than Market for My Car Because of it's Condition & other $$ spent, Basically a Touring Build, Local Buyer wasn't to Interested (too high$$), Drove it & Bought It.
I have a 10 GT3 & miss the 95 already....
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I second the recommendation for FVD. Had nothing but good experiences.
My '95 is running beautifully with the Steve Wong chip on 93 octane. Dramatic improvement of the drivability over stock. You will love the SW chip.
Perhaps... If you can buy 93 octane gas.
My SW chip (supposed to work with 91) caused severe knocking when the engine temp and ambient temperature was high. Torco octane booster helped a lot; but, that was not an acceptable solution. This was with 30k miles on a fresh top end, and recently installed new ignition wires, rebuilt distributor, cleaned and balanced injectors, cleaned and verified good MAF, no vacuum leaks, etc. The car runs great with the stock chip....
My only hesitation with jumping into the chip game is the poor quality fuel available around here... If I could reliably get 93+ octane I would be all over it.
Guys, I know this discussion is about chips/reflash of our ECUs...
I have been doing some research and it appears (though not through experience yet), there are now affordable ECU platforms.
I am in software tech and an engineer. I know the motronic ECU is a simple system and manages our stock motors quite well. I know many have gone down the path of a motec or haltech ecu for those that have modified our motors
In full disclosure, I have a flashed motronic ECU from Protomotive for my modified 3.8.
A few weekends ago I picked up a hammer from a Pelicaner here in the Bay Area who is in the process of boosting his 964 motor and will be replacing his Motronic ECU to the MegaSquirt platform. It has been quite popular with the JDM and e30 folks and suprised no traction with us?
I haven't chipped my car, but I am also thinking about it.
What's interesting is you don't hear about 993 engines blowing up. You hear about deers hitting them, you hear about them going 300,000 miles (or 30K miles...). But you don't hear "my XYX failed and the car is now a roller".
There are a lot of folks who have chipped their car. If there was truly an issue I really believe you'd hear a lot more negatives on this forum over the last decade(s).
It would be helpful if just one person would post a dyno-sheet of before/after installation of a 'performance' chip.
Also, since the gains are so small, it's not worth doing the mod.
Let's say the chipped-car runs fine on a cool day, but on a hot day it is pinging, and then one risks a blown head gasket and/or cracked rings from the detonation.
If one is looking for more horsepower with their 993, then you bought the wrong car. Increasing the hp reliably on a 993 is ridiculously expensive keeping it NA. And even after doing that, a modern Honda will still beat you.
I respectfully disagree. Check out my build thread. It's pretty economical to substantially increase HP on a NA 993 through forced induction for well less than $20k. $10k is more like it. I'll happily take on any Honda.
I respectfully disagree. Check out my build thread. It's pretty economical to substantially increase HP on a NA 993 through forced induction for well less than $20k. $10k is more like it. I'll happily take on any Honda.
I agree with you regarding FI, and I've updated my post to be more clear.
How much boost and resultant rwhp are you getting after the mods? Did you go with an intetcooler, as well as have it retuned?
Eaton Supercharger with 6 psi of boost and rwhp of around 350-360. Running an water to air intercooler (I have a watercooled aircooled Porsche) and tuned the ECU at Protomotive.
Eaton Supercharger with 6 psi of boost and rwhp of around 350-360. Running an water to air intercooler (I have a watercooled aircooled Porsche) and tuned the ECU at Protomotive.
Having a proper tune is equally important as the bolted-on hardware. Modded like you did, correctly, it will run forever - nicely done.
I had a C5 Z06 and it put out 351 rwhp, 3,100 lbs, and it was a rocket, so I know your 993 is too.
My SW chip (supposed to work with 91) caused severe knocking when the engine temp and ambient temperature was high. Torco octane booster helped a lot; but, that was not an acceptable solution. This was with 30k miles on a fresh top end, and recently installed new ignition wires, rebuilt distributor, cleaned and balanced injectors, cleaned and verified good MAF, no vacuum leaks, etc. The car runs great with the stock chip....
In CT every gas station sells regular (87 octane) mid grade (91 octane) and super (93 octane). It is not like you have to look for it. There is about a 40 to 50 cent spread between the regular and the super.
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