Instrument removal? LED install?
#1
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Instrument removal? LED install?
I was planning to add LED lights to my 96 993 instruments. It took me an hour to get the clock out. I could not budge the speedometer and gave up after another hour plus trying from the front and back of the instrument. I do not want cause damage.
Is there a technique I am not aware of?
BTW, while I had the clock out I tested the clock with the LED lights and compared to my other instruments ... they were considerably brighter.
Is there a technique I am not aware of?
BTW, while I had the clock out I tested the clock with the LED lights and compared to my other instruments ... they were considerably brighter.
Last edited by 911Jeff; 03-30-2019 at 07:48 PM.
#2
All of the gauges should push/pull out but the rubber retaining ring is likely hard and less pliable. Once the clock is out, the other gauges should push out from behind
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Unless you have the On Board Computer option!! If you try and remove it you can break the glass off the tach easily while doing so.
Ask me how I know!
According to ToreB it can be done but most people seem to remove the steering wheel and console trim and then remove it.
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Ask me how I know!
According to ToreB it can be done but most people seem to remove the steering wheel and console trim and then remove it.
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#4
These interior pry tools are a must have for jobs like this...patience and working around the instrument will yield the desired results. At a whopping $6.49 @ Walmart, they should not break the bank.
P.S. A tiny sprit of pene fluid at the top of the gauge, helps loosen stuck gauges. After one gauge is removed, pressing the gauge adjacent from behind, while working around the gauge rubber ring with the proper tool, should easily do the trick.
P.S. A tiny sprit of pene fluid at the top of the gauge, helps loosen stuck gauges. After one gauge is removed, pressing the gauge adjacent from behind, while working around the gauge rubber ring with the proper tool, should easily do the trick.
Last edited by nine9six; 03-31-2019 at 02:55 PM.
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I tried for another two hours....even with a crow bar from behind. It’s like they are glued in place. I could remove the two outer instruments, but the three middle ones won’t budge. I have a very complete set of 16 pry tools, both plastic and metal....
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I tried for another two hours....even with a crow bar from behind. It’s like they are glued in place. I could remove the two outer instruments, but the three middle ones won’t budge. I have a very complete set of 16 pry tools, both plastic and metal....
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I tried WD40 with no success. I haven’t had instruments out in 20 years. It is as if the gaskets have bonded with the dash material. The two end instruments that came out with a great deal of effort still had pliable gaskets. I am giving up (for the time being).
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#10
Sooner or later You will have to find a soloution, but if You dim the lights it will be as late as possible!
Last edited by Railmaster.; 04-01-2019 at 04:50 AM. Reason: Correction
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It looks like the flange edge of the original gauges may be captured behind the carbon fiber facia slipped over them or the glue used to hold the facia migrated to the original gauge rings. If this is the case no wonder they won't come loose. You may need to remove the carbon fiber facia or soften any glue present first but this probably will damage the carbon fiber facia in the process. Waiting for a warm day and putting your car out in direct sun with the windows up may warm up and soften any glue that may be present if glue is the issue. Finally, the original trim rings were probably thin and black, the bright metal ones in the picture may be glued on or replaced the original and may be contributing to the gauges seeming to be unremovable
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It looks like the flange edge of the original gauges may be captured behind the carbon fiber facia slipped over them or the glue used to hold the facia migrated to the original gauge rings. If this is the case no wonder they won't come loose. You may need to remove the carbon fiber facia or soften any glue present first but this probably will damage the carbon fiber facia in the process. Waiting for a warm day and putting your car out in direct sun with the windows up may warm up and soften any glue that may be present if glue is the issue. Finally, the original trim rings were probably thin and black, the bright metal ones in the picture may be glued on or replaced the original and may be contributing to the gauges seeming to be unremovable
#13
I was planning to add LED lights to my 96 993 instruments. It took me an hour to get the clock out. I could not budge the speedometer and gave up after another hour plus trying from the front and back of the instrument. I do not want cause damage.
Is there a technique I am not aware of?
BTW, while I had the clock out I tested the clock with the LED lights and compared to my other instruments ... they were considerably brighter.
Is there a technique I am not aware of?
BTW, while I had the clock out I tested the clock with the LED lights and compared to my other instruments ... they were considerably brighter.
Did the car come with the carbon fiber, foo-foo piece, or did you install it?
Do you happen to have a photo of the clock removed from the dash socket and was the rubber gasket that surrounds the gauge, in place?
It is definitely not the Walrod trim rings holding the gauges in place, since the rings sit within the bore of the black gauge bezel itself which is all part of the gauge.
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It looks like the flange edge of the original gauges may be captured behind the carbon fiber facia slipped over them or the glue used to hold the facia migrated to the original gauge rings. If this is the case no wonder they won't come loose. You may need to remove the carbon fiber facia or soften any glue present first but this probably will damage the carbon fiber facia in the process. Waiting for a warm day and putting your car out in direct sun with the windows up may warm up and soften any glue that may be present if glue is the issue. Finally, the original trim rings were probably thin and black, the bright metal ones in the picture may be glued on or replaced the original and may be contributing to the gauges seeming to be unremovable
#15
With the aftermarket trim rings, sometimes people use an adhesive and to much to boot - they are then very hard to get off.
Chances are some of the adhesive bonded to the CF panel.
A light tab of bathroom caulk is best used - easy to get off and won't take the paint off the gauges if a customer decides he doesn't lie them any more.
Chances are some of the adhesive bonded to the CF panel.
A light tab of bathroom caulk is best used - easy to get off and won't take the paint off the gauges if a customer decides he doesn't lie them any more.