NSX vs 993 - some truth here?
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albeit with a slight bias:
<a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Reference/comparisons/porsche.htm" target="_blank">NSX vs. Porsche</a>
There seem to been some ex993 driver converts & thier impressions. Some interesting articles on <a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/ownership/insurance.htm" target="_blank">insurance</a> & <a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/ownership/exoticcode.htm" target="_blank">exotic owners code of conduct</a>
Cool, they're just different cats I guess...
Any substance to their ideals?
<a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/Reference/comparisons/porsche.htm" target="_blank">NSX vs. Porsche</a>
There seem to been some ex993 driver converts & thier impressions. Some interesting articles on <a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/ownership/insurance.htm" target="_blank">insurance</a> & <a href="http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/ownership/exoticcode.htm" target="_blank">exotic owners code of conduct</a>
Cool, they're just different cats I guess...
Any substance to their ideals?
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If you're into cavariccis and bollo ties then an NSX is right down your alley. A 993 is a classic beauty w/ no equal imo.
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Somebody on one of the old 911 lists compared the two thusly:
If your car were your girlfriend, the 911 would be the kinky neurotic adventurous siren you first learned sex with, while the NSX would be the smart capable stable girl you decided to marry.
It was something along those lines, anyway. I've never driven an NSX, but that analogy hit home...
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If your car were your girlfriend, the 911 would be the kinky neurotic adventurous siren you first learned sex with, while the NSX would be the smart capable stable girl you decided to marry.
It was something along those lines, anyway. I've never driven an NSX, but that analogy hit home...
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Originally quoted by 914und993:
[quote] If your car were your girlfriend, the 911 would be the kinky neurotic adventurous siren you first learned sex with, while the NSX would be the smart capable stable girl you decided to marry. <hr></blockquote>
But...but, you mean I can't have my cake and tie it up, too?
Damn, I was going to keep the 993 forever.
[quote] If your car were your girlfriend, the 911 would be the kinky neurotic adventurous siren you first learned sex with, while the NSX would be the smart capable stable girl you decided to marry. <hr></blockquote>
But...but, you mean I can't have my cake and tie it up, too?
Damn, I was going to keep the 993 forever.
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That's pretty funny, OHHH not biased at all coming from an NSX site. I didn't really expect them to say the 993 was better or any other car for that matter. I really would like to know where the first guy lived if there is a 993 in every other garage. I live in an area where the "cheap" homes go for $700,000 plus. And I have seen maybe 2 993's and a few 996's.
I have also owned a Z06, 94 NSX, RX-7 Twin Turbo,M3. I, "ME" personally would not trade this 993 for any car I have owned or driven. This car gives you a feeling of a natural road racer. The NSX BTW does not have the prestige and history PORSCHE has and never will. On the subject of high maint. cost, my NSX overall maint. was not much cheaper. I would like to see some repost after about 30,000 miles, if you know anything about the NSX the engine spread all over and not easily accessible. Sounds like someone bought a car that was not well taking care of.
Any high performance car is exspensive to maintain. My Z06 was the most exspensive. I have never driven a car that was more fun to drive than my 993 although not as powerful as the Z06 or as theoretically cheap to maintain as the NSX I'll stick with the 993 until it finally dies and then move on to a TT 993. Just my .02 <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />
I have also owned a Z06, 94 NSX, RX-7 Twin Turbo,M3. I, "ME" personally would not trade this 993 for any car I have owned or driven. This car gives you a feeling of a natural road racer. The NSX BTW does not have the prestige and history PORSCHE has and never will. On the subject of high maint. cost, my NSX overall maint. was not much cheaper. I would like to see some repost after about 30,000 miles, if you know anything about the NSX the engine spread all over and not easily accessible. Sounds like someone bought a car that was not well taking care of.
Any high performance car is exspensive to maintain. My Z06 was the most exspensive. I have never driven a car that was more fun to drive than my 993 although not as powerful as the Z06 or as theoretically cheap to maintain as the NSX I'll stick with the 993 until it finally dies and then move on to a TT 993. Just my .02 <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />
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There's an article in the June 1994 BBC Top Gear Magazine regarding the comparison of the then new '95 993 equipped with '17 cups (nonturbo) and a '95 NSX that I uncovered while researching my purchase. In summary (I'm sure most of you don't have this in your archives), the mag provided the two cars to Tiff Needell (BTCC and LeMans driver) and Darick Warwick (F1 driver and Honda dealer owner - the NSX is a Honda in the EU) at Thruxton raceway in the UK. The 993 consistently beat the NSX by 1/2 second around the course, surprising both drivers. Both concur that the 993 is faster in high speed corners; the Honda too soft, even with the EU setup vs. the softer US setup.
The 993 was faster to the ton and cheaper by almost $8k US. Overall, two very different cars; one "with the reliability of a Honda."
The 993 was faster to the ton and cheaper by almost $8k US. Overall, two very different cars; one "with the reliability of a Honda."
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Bumping this old thread because I had to Google cavariccis pants and LOLd. 20 years…seems like yesterday.
Found this thread while thinking about an NSX purchase.
Found this thread while thinking about an NSX purchase.
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Test drive is recommended. My next door neighbor had a NSX and I got to drive it.
Two things bothered me about NSX and they are the first gear ratio and their multi plate clutch set up.
This type of clutch doesn’t like to slip so you end up giving it a fair amount of throttle to get the car going otherwise it wants to bog or stall. 928s similar.
To make things worse first gear is good for about 60mph which doesn’t help the take off and then there’s a significant gap(ratio wise)to second gear. It just seemed awkward to me. Although, otherwise they are lovely driving cars.
My neighbor mentioned that some NSX owners end up ordering a JDM NSX gearbox which has more progressive ratios.
Just my two cents.
Two things bothered me about NSX and they are the first gear ratio and their multi plate clutch set up.
This type of clutch doesn’t like to slip so you end up giving it a fair amount of throttle to get the car going otherwise it wants to bog or stall. 928s similar.
To make things worse first gear is good for about 60mph which doesn’t help the take off and then there’s a significant gap(ratio wise)to second gear. It just seemed awkward to me. Although, otherwise they are lovely driving cars.
My neighbor mentioned that some NSX owners end up ordering a JDM NSX gearbox which has more progressive ratios.
Just my two cents.
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The bottom line is that it is a rebranded Toyota (call it Acura if you like, sort of like when arestaurant renames their cod a different type of fish).
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
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The bottom line is that it is a rebranded Toyota (call it Acura if you like, sort of like when arestaurant renames their cod a different type of fish).
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
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The bottom line is that it is a rebranded Toyota (call it Acura if you like, sort of like when arestaurant renames their cod a different type of fish).
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
Toyota cars are reliable, well built, and are in some instances very unique.
Years ago a friend of mine bought one of these. It was a 7,000 miles car that belonged to Jeff Gorden of NASCAR fame. He brought it to work one day to show us and parked it at the far corner of the parking lot away from all other cars. While inside a very old woman managed to park her car right next to his (and a bit too close I might add). She dinged his door. He was really upset. She didn't understand because it was "just a Toyota" in her own words
The car is made of aluminum and none of the body shops could fix it. Honda actually sent out somebody to the body shop to repair the door at a cost of @ $8,000. Insurance covered it. He then sold the car soon after - afraid to park it anywhere.
Every time I eat fish, Think of the NSX.
I realize this is an old thread.. but why would anyone come to a 911 board trying to comparing a car like an NSX to a 911? I could see the correlation with the Boxter/Cayman due to the engine placement.. but a 993??
My brother in law owned a 91 NSX for about 15 years. Very capable car with looks to boot. I could definitely appreciate it but unfortunately its no 911. Has no pedigree and no race car origins.
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That's pretty funny, OHHH not biased at all coming from an NSX site. I didn't really expect them to say the 993 was better or any other car for that matter. I really would like to know where the first guy lived if there is a 993 in every other garage. I live in an area where the "cheap" homes go for $700,000 plus. And I have seen maybe 2 993's and a few 996's.
I have also owned a Z06, 94 NSX, RX-7 Twin Turbo,M3. I, "ME" personally would not trade this 993 for any car I have owned or driven. This car gives you a feeling of a natural road racer. The NSX BTW does not have the prestige and history PORSCHE has and never will. On the subject of high maint. cost, my NSX overall maint. was not much cheaper. I would like to see some repost after about 30,000 miles, if you know anything about the NSX the engine spread all over and not easily accessible. Sounds like someone bought a car that was not well taking care of.
Any high performance car is exspensive to maintain. My Z06 was the most exspensive. I have never driven a car that was more fun to drive than my 993 although not as powerful as the Z06 or as theoretically cheap to maintain as the NSX I'll stick with the 993 until it finally dies and then move on to a TT 993. Just my .02 <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />
I have also owned a Z06, 94 NSX, RX-7 Twin Turbo,M3. I, "ME" personally would not trade this 993 for any car I have owned or driven. This car gives you a feeling of a natural road racer. The NSX BTW does not have the prestige and history PORSCHE has and never will. On the subject of high maint. cost, my NSX overall maint. was not much cheaper. I would like to see some repost after about 30,000 miles, if you know anything about the NSX the engine spread all over and not easily accessible. Sounds like someone bought a car that was not well taking care of.
Any high performance car is exspensive to maintain. My Z06 was the most exspensive. I have never driven a car that was more fun to drive than my 993 although not as powerful as the Z06 or as theoretically cheap to maintain as the NSX I'll stick with the 993 until it finally dies and then move on to a TT 993. Just my .02 <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />
I guess there will always be "that guy" who boasts this or that, even from the P-car camp. But for whatever reason, there was always "that guy" at the track who would quote this number, that test, or that performance spec, that was always better than our overpriced and overvalued 911s. I vividly recall a guy with an S2000 long ago when that Honda was all the rage with its screaming redline touting his performance and awesome brakes, and the car mags all gushing over it! I recall this because it was a 100+ degree weekend and my over-priced 911 lasted the entire weekend absolutely unphased by the oppressive heat (better than its wilting owner!), whereas car after car ran out of brakes or overheated ...one after the other peeling off the track into the paddocks, and you guessed it, so did this guy's almighty Honda whose specs killed my archaic ol car, which is largely stock, mind you!
I like the NSX, always had respect for them. I always have respect for the guy who stretches out, reaches farther, and goes for the big prize. That effort deserves respect in my book. But for whatever performance it touts, it doesn't capture that elusive joy and satisfaction of art meets machine meets grins.
And as for reliability: I had a Honda die!! at 140k miles (freaking criminal for a car whose higher initial cost is supposed to be offset by lower maintenance ..that's their claim, right?!!!). And the poor way the factory (because the dealership wouldn't budge, I went up the food chain) treated me, I swore off this garbage brand forever! Seriously. By contrast, the 993 and the SC have cost me precious little to maintain, the clutch/engine-out costs being the dearest. But amortize that cost over their entire ownership and zero maintenance surprises and you'll find these cars were as rock-solid reliable and cheap --if not more so-- than any car I've ever had. The only exception is our Suburban now at 210k miles and bizarrely strong! So yeah, the NSX is nice. But that whole "costs less to maintain" thing is a long-dead argument with Acura/Lexus/Infinity demanding commensurate maintenance costs these days, nor are they much cheaper to buy initially.
Why "that guy" feels the need to "prove" that his is bigger than yours always escapes me. Call it a personality defect, if you will. All I want to do is drive fun cars, not spend a mint, and appreciate them for what they are. And this among other car geeks of all kinds. It's easy not to be "that guy" if one tries
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I could rant on how Honda are unreliable, my sister had a '98 Accord sedan ( auto transmissions known to die at 80k milles), sure enough, transmission crapped out around 80k miles. Her tail lights were water cooled (filled with water), drilled tiny drain holes to let it out. In other countries they did not have to invent a premium nameplate ( Acura) to sell Americans on a more expensive Honda like they did in the US. Not hating on them. My ex-bro-in law had a '89 Civic Si, that was a fun car.
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