2020 NEXT GENERATION 992 SPY PICS & RELEASE
02-25-2018, 06:33 PM
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BTW - Does anybody know when rennlist is going to create the 992 forum?
02-25-2018, 06:42 PM
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I agree. Was just throwing it out there. That's what it looks like based on the statements. With respect to a 4 banger... Porsche hopefully realizes they cant do this to the 911. If they add batteries to the current engine I see them taking out the turbos for space in the back so they dont mess up the balance.
02-25-2018, 07:14 PM
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I agree. Was just throwing it out there. That's what it looks like based on the statements. With respect to a 4 banger... Porsche hopefully realizes they cant do this to the 911. If they add batteries to the current engine I see them taking out the turbos for space in the back so they dont mess up the balance.
02-25-2018, 07:54 PM
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The worst nightmare would be a hybrid 911. An electric motor, large energy storage battery, regenerative braking systems and who knows what else will simply make the car a completely different driving experience, which doubtful will be enjoyable. Not that getting rid of the gas engine would ever get my vote, but a pure electric would be a rocket, simpler and keep the 911 somewhat closer to its' root purpose of driving enjoyment. Don't flame me, but has anyone met a great driving hybrid yet?
02-25-2018, 07:59 PM
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The worst nightmare would be a hybrid 911. An electric motor, large energy storage battery, regenerative braking systems and who knows what else will simply make the car a completely different driving experience, which doubtful will be enjoyable. Not that getting rid of the gas engine would ever get my vote, but a pure electric would be a rocket, simpler and keep the 911 somewhat closer to its' root purpose of driving enjoyment. Don't flame me, but has anyone met a great driving hybrid yet?
02-25-2018, 08:02 PM
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02-25-2018, 08:20 PM
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02-25-2018, 08:47 PM
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Hybrid and electric 911 will happen no doubt. More likely generation after 992. Don't think 992 will be designed for hybrid. For sure not full electric.
02-25-2018, 09:43 PM
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What are the odds they ditch the7 speed manual for the 6 speed, now that they are using the 6 speed in multiple vehicles.
02-25-2018, 09:55 PM
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992 Forum 
you got my vote!
I figure I will not be ready to get a PTS run on the 991.2, so I'm eagerly watching the reveals to see if I will like the 992.
i just cannot get enough... of that PORSCHE 992 stuff! ... I think that was a commercial ... maybe a cookie commercial? Hell, senility is setting in!
you got my vote!I figure I will not be ready to get a PTS run on the 991.2, so I'm eagerly watching the reveals to see if I will like the 992.
i just cannot get enough... of that PORSCHE 992 stuff! ... I think that was a commercial ... maybe a cookie commercial? Hell, senility is setting in!
02-25-2018, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
What are the odds they ditch the7 speed manual for the 6 speed, now that they are using the 6 speed in multiple vehicles.
02-25-2018, 11:18 PM
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02-25-2018, 11:46 PM
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I would be shocked to see them decide 7 gears AND turbos for 7 model years and then all of a sudden throw this philosophy out the window for better shifting. If they did I would probably trade my undorn carrera T for it 
02-26-2018, 12:51 AM
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As long as electric continues to improve, it will quickly become the car of choice for most of the "non-car-guy" buyers out there, if it isn't already. My wife would be well-served by electric as long as it is convenient for her. Give her a 350-mile range, similar to her ML350, and an easy charging solution in the house overnight, and she'd never need off-site fueling. Getting to places farther away than 350 miles is and would remain MY problem. 
Anyway, if the economics work out, even to where unsubsidized electrics get down to no more than 10% more than gassers (Total Cost of Ownership), I think most regular people would prefer them -- in fact already do. Much quieter, no smells, no gas station stops, belief they're helping the environment, faster acceleration than equivalent price gassers.
So at that point, you won't have to subsidize and you won't have to legislate against gassers -- the free market will put most people into electrics by choice, and they'll be happier with them. In fact, most won't even own the things, but will just hail them with an app. So I think US Congress will leave us gas-heads alone as far as legislating against us. The problem will be shrinking supply of purchase options, as well as dwindling availability of gas stations.
Anyway, if the economics work out, even to where unsubsidized electrics get down to no more than 10% more than gassers (Total Cost of Ownership), I think most regular people would prefer them -- in fact already do. Much quieter, no smells, no gas station stops, belief they're helping the environment, faster acceleration than equivalent price gassers.
So at that point, you won't have to subsidize and you won't have to legislate against gassers -- the free market will put most people into electrics by choice, and they'll be happier with them. In fact, most won't even own the things, but will just hail them with an app. So I think US Congress will leave us gas-heads alone as far as legislating against us. The problem will be shrinking supply of purchase options, as well as dwindling availability of gas stations.
People want EV’s except for those who protest at “future stuff” and automotive purists. I support EV’s on my brain side and think technically they’ll blow gas cars away in terms of everything statistical and logistical. But my heart and automotive emotional side will have me only spending “big bucks” on a visceral gas car. Cars are emotional to me. An expensive EV just doesn’t interest me (I’d get a cheap one), as no matter how fast, it won’t rivet or engage me, nor entice my senses (especially aurally). I’d rather have a cheap EV over a cheap gasser, but an expensive, raw, emotive gasser over an expensive EV.
I agree. Was just throwing it out there. That's what it looks like based on the statements. With respect to a 4 banger... Porsche hopefully realizes they cant do this to the 911. If they add batteries to the current engine I see them taking out the turbos for space in the back so they dont mess up the balance.
Think about the 918 Spyder vs P1 as an example. The 918 has less HP, but due to the immediate-delayless-spoolless immense torque, is faster. AND it sounds WAY better as ditching turbos for electric motors allowed them to keep a higher displacement engine running higher compression.