Carrera T vs GTS vs GT3
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@CJDCREW What are your factory options that your car weighs ~3,400 lbs stock? Strippers are supposed to be 3,250...
I think I'll start a thread asking for people to share pix on scales. I think it'd be interesting. Hell we've got one just for pix of cars at gas stations so this has got to be more useful.
2025 992.2 Carrera 2WD base with ~11 gallons of fuel, solid sunroof, no FAL, no RWS, steel brakes, 14-way seats, full leather.
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Public weigh stations aren’t very accurate. I’d bet both cars are slightly less.
3,400lbs for PDK, sunroof & heaviest seat option makes sense.
But what is the spec on your T that would make it 3,400lbs?
MT alone should be a huge savings over PDK. Although, it does have a mLSD & larger brakes. Assuming you spec’d the same options (sunroof & 18-ways/rear seats). I’m surprised.
3,400lbs for PDK, sunroof & heaviest seat option makes sense.
But what is the spec on your T that would make it 3,400lbs?
MT alone should be a huge savings over PDK. Although, it does have a mLSD & larger brakes. Assuming you spec’d the same options (sunroof & 18-ways/rear seats). I’m surprised.
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A typical (non-GT3) 992 weighs in somewhere around 3500lbs. The T-hybrids weigh a bit more than that. My 3 pedal 991.2 Targa weighs less than my PDK 992 C4S did.
These aren’t lightweight cars and the weight savings achieved through various option choices is de minimis. If the heart wants carbon fiber wiper arms, go for it, but you’re not going to get a 992 lighter without dramatic steps that compromise street ability or safety.
These aren’t lightweight cars and the weight savings achieved through various option choices is de minimis. If the heart wants carbon fiber wiper arms, go for it, but you’re not going to get a 992 lighter without dramatic steps that compromise street ability or safety.
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@CJDCREW What are your factory options that your car weighs ~3,400 lbs stock? Strippers are supposed to be 3,250...
24 MT, extended range tank at 80% fuel, 18 ways with the T fabric (back trouble), back seat (wife demand), Bose, Carbon fiber roof (vanity), extended leather, FAL (debate not needed, my driveway is impossible and my wife loves the house) and RWS. I probably had about 10-15 lbs of “stuff” in the car when it was weighed (max) AND full PPF, some Moshammer bits, and mine came with the lead acid so was always going to be at least + 30-ish compared to the quoted T weight which is IIRC on a 24 - no FAL, no RWS, no extended tank, no rear seat, 4 ways, no sunroof. I’m confident in my swapped parts weight savings math, though I’m sure a scientific scale would show minor differences, the scale is fairly accurate and consistent. I forgot to weigh it before I messed with it, but my swag says it should have been @ 3370 with my options before I started changing it. By my calculations, it should have been @3305 after the diet with a full non-extended tank, I came in at 3311 with a fuel guesstimate of @ 17 gallons so I’m within a modest % error on my forecast.
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Yeah, you get it, but it depends on what mountain roads we're talking about.
On a twisty mountain road, even with PDCC, AWD, and PDK advantage, a 500 lb heavier .2 4GTS is at best going to be on part with my .1 T, same driver.
You just can't hide that kind of weight delta.
Of course the GTS is going to gap the T on straights and what you describe is exactly what I always say: you drive the T on the gas and the GTS, even the .1, on the brakes.
Everyone has their preferences and everyone is in different stages of sports car ownership arc but after owning high powered cars, going fast in a straight line is boring to me.
I much rather spend my time hustling a car to speed than getting somewhere fast only to get on the brakes. Properly spec'd, the T is much better than numbers suggest.
On a twisty mountain road, even with PDCC, AWD, and PDK advantage, a 500 lb heavier .2 4GTS is at best going to be on part with my .1 T, same driver.
You just can't hide that kind of weight delta.
Of course the GTS is going to gap the T on straights and what you describe is exactly what I always say: you drive the T on the gas and the GTS, even the .1, on the brakes.
Everyone has their preferences and everyone is in different stages of sports car ownership arc but after owning high powered cars, going fast in a straight line is boring to me.
I much rather spend my time hustling a car to speed than getting somewhere fast only to get on the brakes. Properly spec'd, the T is much better than numbers suggest.
I love reviews like this because at least it’s apples to apples all encompassed in the same review. But now that the Turbo S is out, I wonder if people wouldn’t just get that instead of the GTS. Because 2 turbos > 1 turbo. And the truth is, I don’t know many drivers who choose between a GT3 and a Carrera T. Most GT3 owners I know would likely own both. It’s my truth that I see.
I’ve owned the 991.2 Carrera T and spent significant time in the 992.1 Carrera T which I wanted to love. It’s my opinion, but it left me wishing I had the manual with S/GTS power. I appreciate that Porsche makes the Carrera T, but it would drive me nuts (I’m not an ECU tuning fan but I get that massive appeal because it addresses my key complaint).
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Public weigh stations aren’t very accurate. I’d bet both cars are slightly less.
3,400lbs for PDK, sunroof & heaviest seat option makes sense.
But what is the spec on your T that would make it 3,400lbs?
MT alone should be a huge savings over PDK. Although, it does have a mLSD & larger brakes. Assuming you spec’d the same options (sunroof & 18-ways/rear seats). I’m surprised.
3,400lbs for PDK, sunroof & heaviest seat option makes sense.
But what is the spec on your T that would make it 3,400lbs?
MT alone should be a huge savings over PDK. Although, it does have a mLSD & larger brakes. Assuming you spec’d the same options (sunroof & 18-ways/rear seats). I’m surprised.
I love the lightweight concept but pulling everything that makes the 911 a nicer place to be than a Caterham trying to make it into one defeats the purpose. I love my T, but so far the lightweight glass has already broken on me once and caused me to add windshield PPF, so I''d have taken standard glass if it was an option.
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@detansinn is correct that the average Carrera excluding .2 GTS is around 3,500.
Your T makes sense with your options at 3,400. Same goes for @CJDCREW's car.
Unless you've gone through the exercise of removing weight from a car, most people don't realize how quickly you can add 100 lbs in options.
Most don't care. A few of us do. There's a reason why with few exceptions, the most iconic Porsches are all lightweight models.
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Love my Macan Turbo with 18-ways, but sports cars need manual seats IMO.
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Agree. I've sat in my neighbor's 991 buckets...beautiful but very impractical. I know myself and I think they would absolutely dissuade me from using the car more.
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I can’t recall.
What is the weight difference between MT & PDK?
What is the weight difference between 4-way & 18-ways?
What’s the sunroof weight?
What is the weight difference between MT & PDK?
What is the weight difference between 4-way & 18-ways?
What’s the sunroof weight?
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Don't know sunroof and depends on glass vs metal as the glass weighs more.