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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GregConaway
VAT doesnt impact the USA
It doesn't impact US vehicles being purchased in the EU? it 100% does... which means for purchasers in the EU (who would want a US vehicle) would have increased prices due to higher tariffs, and then also have to pay VAT.

Trump says he wants to even out the difference in tariffs, such as the 2.5% U.S. import duty for cars against the 10% EU rate and also factor in VAT and other costs to U.S. businesses.
A reciprocal 10% import duty into the United States might be hard to swallow for EU producers. With VAT added, that could rise to a crippling total tariff of some 30%.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/why...ff-2025-02-21/

All to say that my point is that we don't know, 10% isn't the ceiling... so I wouldn't assume that's the limit.

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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kevntao
It doesn't impact US vehicles being purchased in the EU? it 100% does... which means for purchasers in the EU (who would want a US vehicle) would have increased prices due to higher tariffs, and then also have to pay VAT.

it impacts countries that have VAT tax. Germany isnt one of them


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/why...ff-2025-02-21/

All to say that my point is that we don't know, 10% isn't the ceiling... so I wouldn't assume that's the limit.
auto markets is too big. he wont destroy the industry. hence why hes delaying canada and mexico. i wouldnt worry about it.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GregConaway
auto markets is too big. he wont destroy the industry. hence why hes delaying canada and mexico. i wouldnt worry about it.
I would agree here, but with the impulse trigger examples as of late, just need to accept that it's part of the deal and be willing to walk. OP just would probably need to find another dealer that would do MSRP and no ADM without the trade-in and then decide to do the trade-in later when the 992.2 comes in successfully.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kevntao
I would agree here, but with the impulse trigger examples as of late, just need to accept that it's part of the deal and be willing to walk. OP just would probably need to find another dealer that would do MSRP and no ADM without the trade-in and then decide to do the trade-in later when the 992.2 comes in successfully.
true about op. glad im msrp and no admin....... and not relying on a trade in
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PJ Cayenne
Hey all, new here to the 992 forum, as I currently have a 991.2 so been hanging out with the 991 team. Well, got the bug after seeing the 992.2 and what I think are mostly improvements. While a "base" would be great, the pull to the "S" is pretty strong. A dealer in my area has offered me a May 1 build for an S, He is at $5K ADM, from $10k after a minimum of negotiation. They want me to pre-trade my low mileage 991.2 MT, which could be acceptable with one caveat- prospective tariffs, I won't pay them. So if I pre-trade my 991.2 my 911 will be gone.
Here are my questions:
1. What is everyone seeing on ADMs for S allocations?
2. Is there a way to lock in pricing and not have to worry about the tariffs? I will ask the SA but wanted to get opinions here.

TIA for your input
Don’t pre-trade the car. I did that once and I was left without my Porsche for five months. Basically all summer. It was a bad decision. If you are not driving the car, then it’s different of course.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 03:19 PM
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My 992 left yesterday, Pre traded at a very good number. The deal was so strong you'd be an idiot for not doing it. Back end risk factor. The tariff bomb. Odds are it will Get worked out by my late june arrival if not Z06 baby at a discount and Porsche will never see me again! No big deal just business! Look at the numbers reported for BMW today! ****! Plus add China market has been off for 2 years for Porsche. Porsche has been dumping SUV's here for a year plus! Screw with the USA car market you may never recover. I don't want a Z06 but the EU better fix the unfair taxes. My Porsche dealer is not HAPPY!! The dealership will not be able to pass a 10% tax to the customer. Look what Ferrari said, they're running economic models... Means they don't know and want to see how bad it gets!! EU manufacturing will come to a stand still. VW wont be sending boats full of cars anymore!!

The U.S. is Porsche’s top market, but the company’s lack of assembly operations in the country have left it potentially vulnerable to a U.S. trade war with the European Union. Porsche’s main plants are based in Germany.

While listed separately,the 911-maker is part of the Volkswagen Group, along with brands including Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley, Skoda, Seat, and Volkswagen itself. Blume is chief executive of both Volkswagen Group and Porsche.

“My hope is there will be an agreement between Europe and the U.S. ... I’m counting on a fair solution between the regions,” Blume told CNBC.
I tried to “leg” into a similar trade in 2020 with the pandemic in target. Sold my 2017 Cab S for a nice price. Regretted it a year later. My 2024 cost ~$40K more. Live and learn.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by subwoofer
Don’t pre-trade the car. I did that once and I was left without my Porsche for five months. Basically all summer. It was a bad decision. If you are not driving the car, then it’s different of course.
Yep, pre-trade is off the table. Currently negotiating on a very well spec'd base, under 1,000 miles, $3k off MSRP, no ADM, no required packages. So tariff issue off the table too.
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Old Mar 14, 2025 | 07:24 PM
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0 ADM on my S allocation which I effectively had a three different dealers.
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0 ADM on my S allocation which I effectively had a three different dealers. I pre traded in my M8 because he said it would be worth this much in February but less in May when my car was ready and also I would have been freaked out driving it for those months as well because heaven for better get in an accident and then there goes my trade-in
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