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Old 09-26-2024 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernin
Definitely, it seems like the best especially for harder rubber compound track tires.
How have you liked using non Michelin tires?
I am curious as I do not like how short the life of Perrelis cup 2 equivalent is.
So i am interested in equivalents to cup 2's and how their life and rating is.
But I love the winter tire they make.
Mine are the GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3, equivalent to Michelin PS4S. I have no complaints about the dry grip on these tyres. They're absolutely fantastic. I've also driven on wet roads, not puring rain yet, but only a matter of time, and they've been fine there.
I have Cup2 on my 718 GT4. Whilst outright grip was great, they were sketchy in the rain and you feel them aqua plane a bit when going through any form of standing water. They also wear out a lot quicker.
I drive my GTS everywhere and have ticked over 3700 miles in 10 weeks, including about 2.5 weekends of AutoX (totalling about 40 runs or so).
At the last AutoX event on Sunday I had a puncture/cut in the front tyre. I drove it 2.5hrs home as it held up air and had a new tyre put on yesterday. The wear wasn't too much when compared to the other front tyre, so didn't need to fork out for a second one.

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Old 09-27-2024 | 10:01 AM
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Yeah I also keep my tires inflated higher when driving at the track, I don’t go down to 25 like some people. I think I keep my pounds at like 28 in front 32 in back? Or something like that
the rear brake ducks are just plug and play basically, clips hold them in and they don’t require any special fitting or cutting
Good info on tire pressure. I am used to heavier cars (M3) and usually run 36/38 hot but given the 700lbs lower weight on our cards I would think 30/32 or 34? Going to the track next week, I will take some pressure/temp readings and report back. On the stock PS4S but considering Cup2s or another alternate for more track days next year. Any other track rats have input?

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Old 09-27-2024 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by CurryPuff
Mine are the GY Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3, equivalent to Michelin PS4S. I have no complaints about the dry grip on these tyres. They're absolutely fantastic. I've also driven on wet roads, not puring rain yet, but only a matter of time, and they've been fine there.
I have Cup2 on my 718 GT4. Whilst outright grip was great, they were sketchy in the rain and you feel them aqua plane a bit when going through any form of standing water. They also wear out a lot quicker.
I drive my GTS everywhere and have ticked over 3700 miles in 10 weeks, including about 2.5 weekends of AutoX (totalling about 40 runs or so).
At the last AutoX event on Sunday I had a puncture/cut in the front tyre. I drove it 2.5hrs home as it held up air and had a new tyre put on yesterday. The wear wasn't too much when compared to the other front tyre, so didn't need to fork out for a second one.

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cup 2s you cannot drive in rain, at all. I would definitely never try, there is a story I know where a person who just did a track weekend on cup 2s had to drive behind a semi truck for 4 hours, because if he moved out of the trucks tracks he would have hydroplaned. He said never again 😂 I am sorry you have a puncture! That is horrible my ps4s have 2 patches in the back from nails I got coming back from rennsport last year :/ but I am glad you were able to just get one tire and not have to shell out for more
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Originally Posted by ClubRacer523
Good info on tire pressure. I am used to heavier cars (M3) and usually run 36/38 hot but given the 700lbs lower weight on our cards I would think 30/32 or 34? Going to the track next week, I will take some pressure/temp readings and report back. On the stock PS4S but considering Cup2s or another alternate for more track days next year. Any other track rats have input?
If you are talking about the hot tire temp, you should probably not go over 36/38 hot for a 911, as you mentioned weight, the cars do not weigh enough for that psi to help. Especially on cup 2s it will feel not right, at that psi you loose grip as the outside and inside patch of tire as the middle bulges and lifts them up from the track. They will feel greasy, if you run those psi, but like you said the other psi should be just fine!

Just like how going 24/26 is too low and can damage your side wall. I like to go out on 28/32 usually then when they are hot, let some air out so I stay at a 32/34.

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Old 09-27-2024 | 11:34 AM
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After driving in Germany on the Autobahn with no speed limit I now get why Porsche has certain 911 variants and how, with our North American Speed limits, we mostly don't get to enjoy the cars they way they are meant:

Base: City cruiser, fine for the highways, the "ladies" choice lol
S: Best all round 911, especially in North America
T: The enthusiast's choice, backroad carver, ideally suited to North American speed limits, the most engaging Porsche to drive in North America, especially in Manual
GTS: Best for both Road and Track duty
GT3/RS/GT2: Best for track duty, not so great for long highway stints or city driving
Turbo: Autobahn burner, great for passing, boring but comfortable in the city, in North America not worth the premium over the S/GTS unless you want to show off how much you can spend
Turbo S: above but can also do track duty

Bottom line: in North America we need Autobahns
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Old 09-27-2024 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KenTO
After driving in Germany on the Autobahn with no speed limit I now get why Porsche has certain 911 variants and how, with our North American Speed limits, we mostly don't get to enjoy the cars they way they are meant:

Base: City cruiser, fine for the highways, the "ladies" choice lol
S: Best all round 911, especially in North America
T: The enthusiast's choice, backroad carver, ideally suited to North American speed limits, the most engaging Porsche to drive in North America, especially in Manual
GTS: Best for both Road and Track duty
GT3/RS/GT2: Best for track duty, not so great for long highway stints or city driving
Turbo: Autobahn burner, great for passing, boring but comfortable in the city, in North America not worth the premium over the S/GTS unless you want to show off how much you can spend
Turbo S: above but can also do track duty

Bottom line: in North America we need Autobahns

I agree 😂
also though my mom has a T in manual she loves it 😂
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Old 09-27-2024 | 12:45 PM
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Come out West! We've got plenty of triple digit roads 😁
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Old 09-27-2024 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by KenTO
After driving in Germany on the Autobahn with no speed limit I now get why Porsche has certain 911 variants and how, with our North American Speed limits, we mostly don't get to enjoy the cars they way they are meant:

Base: City cruiser, fine for the highways, the "ladies" choice lol
S: Best all round 911, especially in North America
T: The enthusiast's choice, backroad carver, ideally suited to North American speed limits, the most engaging Porsche to drive in North America, especially in Manual
GTS: Best for both Road and Track duty
GT3/RS/GT2: Best for track duty, not so great for long highway stints or city driving
Turbo: Autobahn burner, great for passing, boring but comfortable in the city, in North America not worth the premium over the S/GTS unless you want to show off how much you can spend
Turbo S: above but can also do track duty

Bottom line: in North America we need Autobahns
What about the S/T or do you consider that in the GT3/RS/GT2 category?
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Old 09-27-2024 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
What about the S/T or do you consider that in the GT3/RS/GT2 category?
ooo good point I did not even think about that
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Old 09-27-2024 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernin
ooo good point I did not even think about that
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Old 09-27-2024 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
Thank you! I am going to watch this
it’s interesting to hear more about the ST.
to me who is pretty critical about Porsche, I fail to see the reason to get the ST over the R or the GT3 Touring?
I feel like the GT3 Touring is the best of all worlds, track car and road car. Or maybe I am thinking about trying to make Porsche 911s more dual focused then they really are.
where for many it would be the perfect world if you had the GT3 Or RS for the track. The ST for the fun back roads, then the GT3 Touring for the fun road trips?
It’s good to see it’s still a 911 and can be tracked, has a light weight flywheel and it’s of course Ruby Star, it’s interesting that he is breaking traction a lot in the video but maybe that is for fun.

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Old 09-27-2024 | 06:15 PM
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What about the S/T or do you consider that in the GT3/RS/GT2 category?
S/T are for collectors
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Old 09-27-2024 | 06:34 PM
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S/T are for collectors
There are a few S/T owners who are actually driving theirs. Track, daily driving, carving the mountains... Majority may be part of collections or quick flip, so you are correct there... But there are a few who are daily driving them...

Check out the S/T thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ispreloading=1
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Old 09-27-2024 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
There are a few S/T owners who are actually driving theirs. Track, daily driving, carving the mountains... Majority may be part of collections or quick flip, so you are correct there... But there are a few who are daily driving them...

Check out the S/T thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ispreloading=1
Hell yeah I am glad to hear people are using them, and having all sorts of fun with them
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Old 09-27-2024 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
There are a few S/T owners who are actually driving theirs. Track, daily driving, carving the mountains... Majority may be part of collections or quick flip, so you are correct there... But there are a few who are daily driving them...

Check out the S/T thread: https://rennlist.com/forums/992-gt3-...ispreloading=1
Unfortunately it's a $420K car before sales tax in Canada so not seeing the value and its purpose here, other than as a collector piece. I don't know how I would fully exploit a real wheel drive Turbo S manual.
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