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Old 04-15-2024, 12:04 AM
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Porsche steering definitely takes some getting used to! It takes the high speed curves fine but there's this lightness to it that I've never felt in other cars. Usually in other cars, this lightness would mean it's about to understeer but here it just keeps going!

Guess this is that unique 911 steering people speak of.

But def gonna lower the pressures a bit from the "full load" values after realizing they came a tad high.
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Yes and No. The older cars, before Porsche went to fly-by-wire steering, had considerably better steering feedback to the driver. Get in a 993 for example and it won't feel anything like a current 992. I find the steering a bit numb since the 991's. It's OK, but not great. On the other hand, those older Porsches can snap and bite you if you mis-handle them, whereas you can be ham-handed in a 992 and do all sorts of stupid things - the computers will save you from your bad driving. Such is progress!
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Originally Posted by Artzwrk
Porsche steering definitely takes some getting used to! It takes the high speed curves fine but there's this lightness to it that I've never felt in other cars. Usually in other cars, this lightness would mean it's about to understeer but here it just keeps going!

Guess this is that unique 911 steering people speak of.

But def gonna lower the pressures a bit from the "full load" values after realizing they came a tad high.
What car are you coming from? What other cars have you driven recently? Post widespread adoption of EPAS?

I would describe the 992 911 steering as a lot of things, but "light" is probably not one of them, unless I am used to driving a 944.

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Originally Posted by Artzwrk
Porsche steering definitely takes some getting used to! It takes the high speed curves fine but there's this lightness to it that I've never felt in other cars. Usually in other cars, this lightness would mean it's about to understeer but here it just keeps going!

Guess this is that unique 911 steering people speak of.

But def gonna lower the pressures a bit from the "full load" values after realizing they came a tad high.
What you are experiencing is the load transfer on a rear engined car with weight shifting to the rear along with traction of rear tires during acceleration.Tap the brakes before the corner which will shift that weight to the front tires, stir into the corner and power out at the apex. The computer Nannie’s adjust for the understeer.
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I think it all depends what you are comparing it to. If BMW, yes, it would appear light but go from a 911 to a BMW and the BMW will feel heavy
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
I think it all depends what you are comparing it to. If BMW, yes, it would appear light but go from a 911 to a BMW and the BMW will feel heavy
Spot on, while I've experienced others (mostly German and American) and almost all were in the epas era, the most recent and familiar were BMWs. Def not a bad thing, just one of the things that make it unique.

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Originally Posted by Artzwrk
Spot on, while I've experienced others (mostly German and American) and almost all were in the epas era, the most recent and familiar were BMWs. Def not a bad thing, just one of the things that make it unique.
Also, the Porsche steering wheel not as thick as a BMW so it does make it feel differently, as well.
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Yes and No. The older cars, before Porsche went to fly-by-wire steering, had considerably better steering feedback to the driver. Get in a 993 for example and it won't feel anything like a current 992. I find the steering a bit numb since the 991's. It's OK, but not great. On the other hand, those older Porsches can snap and bite you if you mis-handle them, whereas you can be ham-handed in a 992 and do all sorts of stupid things - the computers will save you from your bad driving. Such is progress!
Modern 911 definitely do not have “fly-by-wire” steering systems on the front axle. The steering wheel is still mechanically hard connected to the front wheels through a rack and pinion system. What has changed is the assist system that went from hydraulic to electro-mechanical.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Also, the Porsche steering wheel not as thick as a BMW so it does make it feel differently, as well.
Not gonna lie that is one bimmer thing I do miss
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There are aftermarket steering wheels available.
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There are aftermarket steering wheels available.

Sick!
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I find the steering to be excellent for electrical assist (better than BMW G20, much better than BMW F30), perhaps a bit quicker than my BMWE92 but similar in feedback/feel. The comment about braking prior to cornering is good, even a lift will result in a slight weight transfer and improve initial turn-in. Another tweak is to bump front pressures a couple PSI which will reduce the built in understeer slightly. (A couple, large deviations in front/rear tire pressures can quickly lead to adverse impacts on a rear heavy car.)



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