shack993

4 years ago, you could purchase a 911 for 10% under MSRP. Are we back to that spot where I can offer under MSRP for a car that I have on order?

ipse dixit

You can offer whatever you want, whenver you want.

What's the dealer going to do to you? Take your first born?

cooler2442

Order? No. Purchase used at a dealer, yes. There are still not enough 911 allocations to go around and no dealer is dealing on those since they know its a premium to spec your own car.

John Mclane

Once factory and parts manufacturers gear up for the 992, I believe so.
Shareholders demand sales, dealer's fake scarcity won't be sustainable.

shrimp money

People are willing to pay MSRP or more for a configurable allocation. They’re not as willing to do this on a used vehicle. There’s a difference.

Vicbastige

I have and continue to believe they would happily make and sell more 911's if they could. The CAFE/fleet CO2 limits mean the penalty is too high to Porsche to do this. It will be interesting to see how much hybridization changes this and it would be easy to speculate as one of the main reasons they are pushing towards it.

TXshaggy

Generally "when you have a car on order" -- it means you've received an allocation and generated a sales contract with a Porsche Build Sheet -- Retail.

What did you agree on when you received your allocation?

Has your order locked yet?

Sure, make them an offer and see what they say and report back.

RatherJaded

I do not foresee those acquiring a modifiable 992 allocation receiving a discount off MSRP any time soon. If the U.S. economy tanked then sure, but until then it is highly doubtful.

Diablo Dude

Please explain how you have a car on order that you haven't signed a sales agreement on with a build sheet.

3rdpedal

Once you place the deposit and the order is actually assigned and subject to freeze and build, you have have zero recourse for negotiation. As others have stated that happens at the time you sign an order demand and provide a deposit. No dealer will give you a V200 without a deposit or a contract of some sort.

Considering the lines for allocations, dealers are not giving discounts on spec'd vehicles.

RatherJaded

Hmm… guess I am the exception to the rule above.

3rdpedal

You spec ordered a 992 and had it arrive at delivery with no deposit and no contract or otherwise signed document?

I guess that would make you the exception. My concern with that scenario is that it would not prevent two potential issues: 1) the dealer selling the car to someone else and 2) charging you more upon delivery without stated terms.

I suppose you either got lucky or had an exceptional existing relationship with the dealership.

RatherJaded

Correct, 992 built to my specs. The car is built and at port per TYD. I have received all the regular TYD emails and have received updates via my SA as well. This dealer only sells at MSRP to local clientele, even advertises such. No BS add-ons either.

Diablo Dude

Very rare.

shack993

OP here. Same here - no deposit. I ordered the car (992 T). It was built. Now at dealer. About to sign paperwork and the world has changed. Does it make sense to ask for a discount? 5-6%?

Its ironic. On my PTS GT3 touring (another car), I had paperwork and a deposit on my order. The (different) dealer screwed me while car was on boat and called me to inform me that the price went from MSRP to MSRP + $100k.