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Old 09-09-2023, 05:17 PM
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Regardless of whether you actually decide to pay it (or are desperate to get the car ASAP at any price) - I would initially decline the deal and see if they come back with a counter offer right away at a lower number. Yes I know everyone keeps saying the "waiting lists" are backed up for years - but remember that everyone is on 4 or 5 waiting lists to take delivery of one car, so the waiting list depths are inflated because of the way these cars are sold - it costs nothing (or some small refundable amount) just to toss yourself on a waiting list, so why not.
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Old 09-09-2023, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCab996
Thanks to everyone for the comments - I like the idea of getting some PPF (or something of value) in return for paying the ADM
I purchased MY 22 911 Cab in November 2021 and 911 T in May 23 it will be delivered in October no ADM no watches or PPF all at MSRP in Flemington NJ excellent dealership.
Old 09-09-2023, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolution1
I purchased MY 22 911 Cab in November 2021 and 911 T in May 23 it will be delivered in October no ADM no watches or PPF all at MSRP in Flemington NJ excellent dealership.
Yes. Stand up dealership. How long was your wait? I had my order with Ray Catena 3/22. Took delivery 8/23 @MSRP.
Old 09-09-2023, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gellie
Yes. Stand up dealership. How long was your wait? I had my order with Ray Catena 3/22. Took delivery 8/23 @MSRP.
which model? And is that Order in March 2022 and delivery August 2023?
Old 09-09-2023, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by porschewiseguy
which model? And is that Order in March 2022 and delivery August 2023?
Yes my bad. 3/22 order, delivery 8/23. 4S Cab.
Old 09-09-2023, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gellie
Yes. Stand up dealership. How long was your wait? I had my order with Ray Catena 3/22. Took delivery 8/23 @MSRP.
First allocation was November 2021 my car was supposed to arrive in April 22 but it was totaled in transport it came unlatched I finally received it in September 22.

My T I asked for an allocation in March and received the allocation in early May it’s in production now and it will be here in October 9th fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by Evolution1
I purchased MY 22 911 Cab in November 2021 and 911 T in May 23 it will be delivered in October no ADM no watches or PPF all at MSRP in Flemington NJ excellent dealership.
Just so others don't rush to the Flemington wait list, I was on their wait list for 2.5 years and heard nothing. I called Chris every two months and stopped by a number of times...... nothing. Finally received an allocation from another dealership in late July at MSRP. I did not have a trade and this was my first Porsche 911.
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Originally Posted by ImpeachS
Just so others don't rush to the Flemington wait list, I was on their wait list for 2.5 years and heard nothing. I called Chris every two months and stopped by a number of times...... nothing. Finally received an allocation from another dealership in late July at MSRP. I did not have a trade and this was my first Porsche 911.
Timing and having a relationship with the dealership helps, I think Flemington serves the local community first. I guess I got lucky to get 2 allocations. Chris was my SA also, he has risen to SM.

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Originally Posted by Evolution1
Timing and having a relationship with the dealership helps, I think Flemington serves the local community first. I guess I got lucky to get 2 allocations. Chris was my SA also, he has risen to SM.
I live in the local community only 15 miles from Flemington. I am happy you were able to get allocations. Fortunately we live in an area with multiple dealerships.
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Old 09-10-2023, 11:42 AM
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It’s completely dealer dependent. I visited 3 dealers in the DFW area over the past 2 days and found wildly different sales approaches for a T allocation:

Dealer 1: ADM up front: buy a car off the lot and trade it back for $10k difference when putting in your order at MSRP (smallest dealer)
Dealer 2: ADM of $10K on delivery (medium sized)
Dealer 3: No ADM (largest dealer of them all)

Unfortunately you have to do the leg work to figure out the lay of the land.
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Old 09-11-2023, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by porschewiseguy
I wouldn't pay any ADM. I believe T allocations are easier to come by relative to the rest. There are plenty of dealers who are not charging ADMs on new orders. Just spend a day calling dealers throughout the country and see if they have any allocations.
Has anybody seen ADM being charged recently for the, please excuse the term, "lesser" 911's such as the 911 C4S?? Thanks...

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Old 09-11-2023, 02:29 PM
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My experience with shopping around.
(1) Dealers with "Demand Slots" are not charging ADM but you don't have an allocation yet so expect to wait 3-12 months to get an allocation slot if that.
(2) Dealers with an allocation want to charge an ADM ($10K-$15K) because they know that someone who really wants their 911 now will take that slot immediately.

I have a deposit for #1 at a dealer, and I visit another dealer who has #2 above and I can have my 911-T as soon as January if I go with #2. ADM they are charging is $10K.
Old 09-12-2023, 01:16 AM
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Thank you for the replies here - I did not know the difference between the different types of allocations. I appreciate this forum for so many reasons, including being able to learn things that the dealership did not explain...

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Old 09-12-2023, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ImpeachS
Just so others don't rush to the Flemington wait list, I was on their wait list for 2.5 years and heard nothing. I called Chris every two months and stopped by a number of times...... nothing. Finally received an allocation from another dealership in late July at MSRP. I did not have a trade and this was my first Porsche 911.
They were pretty straight with me when I contacted them last year. Multiple year wait, they are a smaller dealership that doesn't get many allocations and they were allocating cars to their existing customers first.
Old 09-12-2023, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by vintage38
Not that the Porsche watches aren't a rip off item. But I was happy to pay $5500 for a $2000 watch, then just hand over $10k and received nothing. A no brainer in my book.
Similar to the $1100 you pay to get an hour and minute hand on the dash clock.


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