Maybe there's a longer line for C2s? That was the case for the two dealers I spoke to. Also, 992.1 generation is winding down and T is the most recent model so they are probably focused on getting more of those out the door? T isn't a limited run model, right?

 

- Get the 18 ways for your back.
- I wouldn't prioritize LSD unless you're doing motorsports.
- C2 is the better car for you. I have a T. It's very loud in the cabin (thinner glass and insulation) and your wife and daughter may hate it on the roadtrips you plan on taking. Suspension may be stiffer also (haven't driven a C2 but T has sport PASM).
- all C2s are PDK.

All of the above notwithstanding, you are right that a T allocation may be easier to get than a base allocation. T is a limited run bu they don't say up front how many they plan to build. It's a 23/24 model only at the end of the 992.1 production run.

Good luck!

 

They do? For a 992? Where!?

 

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1062...991-2-a-5.html

this was the thread I was reading up on. Sounds like they got it working better than the factory setup. I’m not sure why the PDK has a different rear end except gear ratio but it sounds like the PTV system works with the factory LSD. Either way, it sounds like it’s possible. The other option is finding a S differential that uses a PDK system so you know it works.

 

Update. Spoke with one of the dealers where I have the C2 wait-list and they said I'd be next in line (Q1 delivery likely) for a Carrera T so the gods have decided for me. Change to that list. Going tomorrow to sit in some seats, meet the SA and discuss options. Super excited!

If I like the experience, I'll probably call the other dealer to cancel my wait list and get a refund. I kinda didn't like the vibe the guy was throwing off, he didn't seem to think I was serious and was calling me while I was test driving the GTS to 'check in'. Maybe due to my age or I wasnt dressing fancy enough for him?
Also he wasn't very helpful with talking about options so I'll ditch him for peace of mind. Don't want to risk ordering 2 cars . Can barely afford a single.

 

Sounds great and don't want to rain on your parade but as a T owner, I still think the T could be problematic for you.

If one of the things you look forward to is roadtrips with your wife and daughter, based on your comments above, you'll be walking a thin line. The T is loud and there's no way to fix it. It has thin glass and thin insulation/carpeting. You hear every pebble the tires kick up. Women can be fussy and your wife sound exactly like the kind of woman who will expect a sports car to be "luxurious", meaning comfortable. That's not the T. This may affect your kid too but your wife alone will be a deal killer. The T is also the same ride height as the GTS and has the same slightly stiffer suspension. You can't option these things out. The C2 on the other hand, sits higher and has a softer suspension with regular glass and regular insulation. Not telling you not to get the T. Just be mindful of these things. It'd be different if you were buying for you but you seem to be buying it for the family.

 

My thoughts as a C2 owner:

C2 is a very comfortable and quiet daily driver over all but the worst roads. Road surface does seem to have an exponential impact on cabin noise however; that's the only way that I can explain the noise issue with the C2 in Harry's Garage (unless the tires were inflated to Full Load pressures). The ride height and suspension tuning does a great job soaking up both highway and mountain road imperfections, and the sport suspension setting does a great job buttoning everything down during enthusiastic driving on well maintained roads.

14 way vs 18 way are very much body dependent. 18 ways get a lot of love here but i've got wide shoulders and hips and prefer the 14 ways. Sit in both if possible. If you can only sit in one, search through some of the threads on here because someone measured the differences between the two and that was helpful to me before I got a chance to try the 18 ways in person (may not help with the lumbar support comfort though).

Burbles are pretty muted in cabin with the windows up on a C2 without PSE. I skipped PSE because of the reviews I read and my desire for quad tips but part of me regrets that decision after finding out that M-Engineering can fix the big issue with PSE (closing the valves between 1k-4k rpm).

Lack of LSD is a non-issue for me driving 7/10s in the mountains with some posted 15mph switchbacks. There's an occasional half second stutter in the rear (not sure if engine is cutting power or stability control is grabbing a break) if I punch it too hard coming out of those switch backs but there's never a loss of traction even in the wet (ignore Nick Murray's opinion on this) and it doesn't even occur if I am smooth with my inputs. It adds some character to the car if anything, assuming that this is due to the lack of LSD. Don't get me wrong, I would have LSD on a C2S if that was an option for me, like the poster above.

PDK is an awesome solution for a car splitting duties between daily and fun car so ignore the haters in this forum. MT cars will have higher resale values though.

I would be a little concerned about the noise levels in the T for a daily driver as well as the issues people are having with the lightweight glass option.

 

I am not 100% certain, but does this news possibly put to rest the suspicion that the T will cease production after December 2023?

 

All valid points. I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit here. Like different flavors of ice cream. I'm sure I'll love both.
Will talk to the SA about the details tomorrow to get more details and try as many things as I can.
I feel like the glas and cabin noise can be fixed if they are truly real issues for me. Get normal Carrera windshield glass, dynamite insulation. But most likely will be fine without modification.

 

Because they are building way more Ts right now vs C2.

Any and all trim level allocations are hard to get, but then factor in which trims the factory is currently favoring and it makes certain trims all that much harder yet.

 

Aftermarket LSD is not available for the 992.
I welcome you to prove me wrong. In fact, I hope you do, as I own a '23 base carrera.

 

Yes, generally there are two model years of the T produced. Everyone appears to be using the 991 T production stats as a reference so currently most of us suspect 14 to 16 months of 992 T production. FYI, a total guesstimate. No one really knows until it actually happens.

 

OP

Keep your names on both regardless of the vibe the SA was giving you. Get whatever you can get first. Allocation can come next week or next year.

Have you driven a C2 or T? You drove 911S and GTS, both are higher HP than C2 and T. You should drive a C2 as well to understand the power and torque. With that said, there are plenty of threads pertaining to C2 base vs S with the consensus base is plenty so..... you should be okay.