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I've got to ask, where the hell do you people drive these cars?? I've done over 100,000kms in 911's across all sorts of roads and never had anything like these sorts of issues.
in salt lake city for me. the roads here are awful and it seems like they are always working on some road. but yes, i agree, it is not acceptable at all.
Yes, commonly referred to as ‘chip sealing’ makes me queasy thinking about the noise. I remember it from growing up in Montana. I doubled up ppf in this area after my first spirited drive and couldn’t believe the impact marks.
I've got to ask, where the hell do you people drive these cars?? I've done over 100,000kms in 911's across all sorts of roads and never had anything like these sorts of issues.
I daily and road trip my car. So I come across all different road conditions, debris or gravel on road, lots and lots of gravel trucks spewing rocks out the back all down the highway, etc. Cars in front run over the gravel and launch it like a missile into my car. Full PPF plus Clearplex has helped a lot. I have nicks and tears in my PPF all over but much better than the paint being scratched everywhere or otherwise leaving the car in my garage and driving it less.
Yes, commonly referred to as ‘chip sealing’ makes me queasy thinking about the noise. I remember it from growing up in Montana. I doubled up ppf in this area after my first spirited drive and couldn’t believe the impact marks.
Yes, down in Australia most of the country roads are done this way, we call it 'coarse chip' but it's the same thing.
[QUOTE=Emosgarage;18858949]I suppose the Xpel PPF did it’s job and protected the paint. if my paint had taken these hits I’d be really upset…. but I’ve only had the PPF a few weeks and it looks like it’s going to have to be replaced. was driving on a country road and came upon a section that was being prepped for repaving. road covered in loose gravel. was driving about 65mph. Could hear rocks flying everywhere…. this damage is in front of the rear wheels. the hips. It’s already been cleaned. these marks aren’t dirt, they are scratches in the PPF…
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Why?
Also, full PPF and then double in high impact areas. Easy to replace in cases such as this.
in salt lake city for me. the roads here are awful and it seems like they are always working on some road. but yes, i agree, it is not acceptable at all.
I've driven in Utah and wondered how people drive sports cars at all, they have open ditches on the sides of the road and at junctions that would scrape a F150.
I've driven in Utah and wondered how people drive sports cars at all, they have open ditches on the sides of the road and at junctions that would scrape a F150.
I took a hit a few weeks back above the headlight!!! Thank god for the PPF!!! It looked like it got the paint!!! Nope!! We pulled the old one off and installed a whole new sheet. Looks brand new!! BUY PPF!
This thread amuses me. I am on my 7th 911 in 45 years and I never put any plastic on them because I drive them and when they get gamey on the outside and inside, I sell them and get a new one. The interior wears out about the same time as the exterior - yet detailers have convinced many of you that you NEED to spend thousands on protection products....why? Take that $ 10,000 you spent for double plastic everywhere, ceramic coating on everything, whatever armor-nonsense they sold you for the interior, and put that in a stock fund account and it will be worth $ 20K in 7 years when you are ready for a new 911. You will not get $ 20K more for your "perfect paint". Why Snowflake your car? It's a mass produced machine, not some rare one-off and its going to get wear and tear on it. When you go to trade it in, the small paint chips don't matter - you get wholesale price based on auction prices and mileage.
You know why your car gets paint chips? Because it has big, wide tires that stick out from the wheel wells, a styling thing. The old 911's (like my first 1970 E) had skinny tires fulling enclosed in the fender, they didn't get paint chips from tires throwing up rocks. But some even want their wheels to come out further via spacers or offsets on custom wheels for an "aggressive" look. Go figure.
Lest you think I beat my cars, I don't. I also know you can never get depth of shine/sheen over plastic. Your PPF car will never look like this after a Swissvax job. You just can't get the pop out of the paint when you cover it with plastic. But to each their own, a few paint chips never bother me personally.
This thread amuses me. I am on my 7th 911 in 45 years and I never put any plastic on them because I drive them and when they get gamey on the outside and inside, I sell them and get a new one. The interior wears out about the same time as the exterior - yet detailers have convinced many of you that you NEED to spend thousands on protection products....why? Take that $ 10,000 you spent for double plastic everywhere, ceramic coating on everything, whatever armor-nonsense they sold you for the interior, and put that in a stock fund account and it will be worth $ 20K in 7 years when you are ready for a new 911. You will not get $ 20K more for your "perfect paint". Why Snowflake your car? It's a mass produced machine, not some rare one-off and its going to get wear and tear on it. When you go to trade it in, the small paint chips don't matter - you get wholesale price based on auction prices and mileage.
You know why your car gets paint chips? Because it has big, wide tires that stick out from the wheel wells, a styling thing. The old 911's (like my first 1970 E) had skinny tires fulling enclosed in the fender, they didn't get paint chips from tires throwing up rocks. But some even want their wheels to come out further via spacers or offsets on custom wheels for an "aggressive" look. Go figure.
Let you think I beat my cars, I don't. I also know you can never get depth of shine/sheen over plastic. Your PPF car will never look like this after a Swissvax job. You just can't get the pop out of the paint when you cover it with plastic. But to each their own, a few paint chips never bother me personally.
interesting thought process. Something to think about. I’m usually a PPF front bumper and hood guy.
Some people are the smartest people they know. Your yard has no weeds, your house looks pretty clean. Gonna guess because that's the way you like it. I like my cars without rock chips.
You all are funny… it wasn’t all gravel or a dirt road, it was a road that had loose gravel poured on it, so it looked like a normal road, and didn’t feel sketchy, but there were little rocks everywhere flying around. Yes, I could have slowed to 5 mph, but I was on it for several miles, and I didn’t want to add an hour to my trip. (and I knew I had ppf 😂. my understanding is that around Ohio, they put tar and rock chip down on the roads as a way to help fill in cracks and resurface them.
Have a talk with the township.
I know that people have successfully received compensation for damges due to pot holes. Maybe there might be recourse here since the road was unfinished.
Was their any warning signs indicating that road work was taking place?
This thread amuses me. I am on my 7th 911 in 45 years and I never put any plastic on them because I drive them and when they get gamey on the outside and inside, I sell them and get a new one. The interior wears out about the same time as the exterior - yet detailers have convinced many of you that you NEED to spend thousands on protection products....why? Take that $ 10,000 you spent for double plastic everywhere, ceramic coating on everything, whatever armor-nonsense they sold you for the interior, and put that in a stock fund account and it will be worth $ 20K in 7 years when you are ready for a new 911. You will not get $ 20K more for your "perfect paint". Why Snowflake your car? It's a mass produced machine, not some rare one-off and its going to get wear and tear on it. When you go to trade it in, the small paint chips don't matter - you get wholesale price based on auction prices and mileage.
You know why your car gets paint chips? Because it has big, wide tires that stick out from the wheel wells, a styling thing. The old 911's (like my first 1970 E) had skinny tires fulling enclosed in the fender, they didn't get paint chips from tires throwing up rocks. But some even want their wheels to come out further via spacers or offsets on custom wheels for an "aggressive" look. Go figure.
Let you think I beat my cars, I don't. I also know you can never get depth of shine/sheen over plastic. Your PPF car will never look like this after a Swissvax job. You just can't get the pop out of the paint when you cover it with plastic. But to each their own, a few paint chips never bother me personally.
Beautiful car, first of all.
I can see it both ways, but PPF has a life span, even if there is no road rash. In Florida the sun can bake PPF until is gets near impossible to remove, then risks paint damage when it is removed. PPF is expensive, but as you say, if chips don't bother you, then what the hell. I salute you for driving your car.
Mine, I just have the bumpers (or whatever) resprayed when the chips get bad enough and fixing them doesn't cut it. My front bumper is on the third respray and the hood on the second. Got a rock that left a divot you could hide the tip of your finger in. PPF would not have spared that. That's life and respray is cheaper than PPF. Unlike you I am not selling the car, so it doesn't matter that the paint isn't original.
06-15-2023, 01:47 PM
. my understanding is that around Ohio, they put tar and rock chip down on the roads as a way to help fill in cracks and resurface them.
