Paint Defect
05-03-2022, 09:41 PM
#17
LOL...Im sure the Ohio Attorney General is going to be real interested in investigating a small paint flaw in your car. Seems like your dealer is jerking your chain...go to another dealer and have them look at the car and file the proper claims with Porsche.
05-04-2022, 10:54 AM
#19
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I had mine paint corrected before putting on the PPF and the Ceramic on top of the PPF.
Find a good detailer near you/body shop, if it is a small imperfection it can easily be corrected by a top shop. I have another car with 4 layer paint, which you cannot even buy the paint from the manufacture (unless you use their body shop) - my detailer (which is an artisan) not only fixed a few spots on it (when new), you cannot tell at all where they touched up those small spots before they PPF'd it.
PS. My 992 reported from the same detailer, was in great shape paint wise when they did the correction before PPF, they said it was nearly perfect. Though minor blemishes does happen on any car/manufacture. A good shop should be able to correct for a few hundred dollars, and porsche paint is easily obtainable unless PTS. So I would not sweat it - if the dealer does not correct it.
Find a good detailer near you/body shop, if it is a small imperfection it can easily be corrected by a top shop. I have another car with 4 layer paint, which you cannot even buy the paint from the manufacture (unless you use their body shop) - my detailer (which is an artisan) not only fixed a few spots on it (when new), you cannot tell at all where they touched up those small spots before they PPF'd it.
PS. My 992 reported from the same detailer, was in great shape paint wise when they did the correction before PPF, they said it was nearly perfect. Though minor blemishes does happen on any car/manufacture. A good shop should be able to correct for a few hundred dollars, and porsche paint is easily obtainable unless PTS. So I would not sweat it - if the dealer does not correct it.
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05-04-2022, 11:09 AM
#20
Three Wheelin'
Well...I have what looks like a piece of dirt under my paint, and I'm in the early phases of this, but already getting the dealer runaround...."No way that could happen at the factory" "Maybe purchasing dealer will do a goodwill repair" "not covered under warranty" etc. I can say that I 100% believe this is a factory defect, as there are no other signs of a repair in the area done at port or at the dealer. The paint is very uniform around the defect. I know it's rare, but has anyone else had a paint defect? Usually when this happens to my cars I use the nuclear approach. BBB Complaints for all dealers, Request an investigation by the Ohio attorney general consumer protection agency, File for arbitration. get an attorney and blast the manufacturer on every social media platform I can find to anyone who will listen....but this is Porsche, I really like the car, and I really don't want to burn the bridge unless I absolutely need to. Any advice for how to get the dealer to swing my way without doing irreparable harm to my dealer relationships?
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05-04-2022, 12:09 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
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It's not the approach I take right out of the gate, only if needed. Has resulted in 2 buybacks of defective cars that dealers wouldn't fix. None of those relationships were worth saving, both mass market. This one is. That's why I reached out for advice.
05-04-2022, 12:27 PM
#22
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When you have to take a magnifying glass, and look at it in a certain angle, and certain light, etc. just to see it. . .I would say just live with it.
It's a car. And like any object, or person, it's not perfect.
And when you use it, it will get blemishes and cosmetic wear.
I've owned two Porsche 911's previously, and I don't think I ever examined them so closely. I drove them. A lot. I sold the last one with 140,000 miles. It was good enough, even with faded paint and a speckled windshield, that a German bought the car to re-patriate back to Germany.
It's a car. And like any object, or person, it's not perfect.
And when you use it, it will get blemishes and cosmetic wear.
I've owned two Porsche 911's previously, and I don't think I ever examined them so closely. I drove them. A lot. I sold the last one with 140,000 miles. It was good enough, even with faded paint and a speckled windshield, that a German bought the car to re-patriate back to Germany.
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05-04-2022, 02:42 PM
#23
Perfection is paralysis. Any attempt at repair will likely make things worse.
I took delivery of my '22 C2S Cab in November. The leather on the steering wheel was wrinkled and creased in the lower portion towards the windshield. You can't see it unless you're looking for it, but I feel it every day. I contemplated asking for the wheel to be replaced but ultimately decided it was no big deal.
Enjoy your car.
I took delivery of my '22 C2S Cab in November. The leather on the steering wheel was wrinkled and creased in the lower portion towards the windshield. You can't see it unless you're looking for it, but I feel it every day. I contemplated asking for the wheel to be replaced but ultimately decided it was no big deal.
Enjoy your car.
05-06-2022, 08:52 AM
#24
Drifting
Dude, you use this same line every single time. It’s old!
O.P., Porsche paint leaves the factory with many imperfections, just like every other manufacturer aside from Bentley/Rolls. Looking under a spectrum light you will find lots of areas that need correction, divets, etc.
O.P., Porsche paint leaves the factory with many imperfections, just like every other manufacturer aside from Bentley/Rolls. Looking under a spectrum light you will find lots of areas that need correction, divets, etc.
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05-06-2022, 09:12 AM
#25
Burning Brakes
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Dude, you use this same line every single time. It’s old!
O.P., Porsche paint leaves the factory with many imperfections, just like every other manufacturer aside from Bentley/Rolls. Looking under a spectrum light you will find lots of areas that need correction, divets, etc.
O.P., Porsche paint leaves the factory with many imperfections, just like every other manufacturer aside from Bentley/Rolls. Looking under a spectrum light you will find lots of areas that need correction, divets, etc.
05-06-2022, 09:16 AM
#26
Drifting
I hear ya, and there are some areas of my car that aren't perfect but don't bother me. I found the defect trying to put PPF on the hood. The dirt obviously caused a high point, but there are also low spots around the defect, lower than the surrounding paint, kinda like a moat. The debris caused paint around the area to be applied thin or unevenly. It's painfully obvious with ppf applied, as there is a gap between the ppf and paint in the "moat" area. Working the ppf into the low areas highlights the high area, and makes a dimple in the ppf, so there's no winning. Even though small, it will need fixed unfortunately. I don't want to deal with it, believe me.
05-07-2022, 08:10 AM
#28
All this about one simple itsy-bitsy paint flaw. We are a mess of a species think about it!
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05-07-2022, 08:14 AM
#29
Three Wheelin'
Maybe we are different, but if I had a noticeable paint flaw on my brand new car - whether a factory issue or a port repair - I would expect it to be addressed. I don’t see that as a flaw on our species.
05-07-2022, 11:37 AM
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I just got a call from my friend Tommy Gardner this morning, someone I have known for 25 years. He has a brain tumor and lost all his strength, he just got the scan results yesterday. That about knocked me out of my chair, he's one of the strongest men I know and a decent man. So I come over to the 992 Forum, catch up just to take my mind off that phone call and I see the speck of dirt and a subsequent pissing contest over it is still in full swing. Methinks some people have a life so smooth they miss out on the big picture.
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