External Factors with a Manual Transmission
04-18-2022 | 05:33 PM
#31
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Agree.. 300 mindless posts of battling... "PDK is best" vs "I can't live without a manual"
If you don't already know buy a PDK, if you want a manual you already know who you are ... and listening to this doesn't change your mind.
I've had both.. when I have a PDK I wish I had a manual. And when I have a manual, I have a hard time holding my coffee and driving. In the end get what floats your boat
If you don't already know buy a PDK, if you want a manual you already know who you are ... and listening to this doesn't change your mind.
I've had both.. when I have a PDK I wish I had a manual. And when I have a manual, I have a hard time holding my coffee and driving. In the end get what floats your boat
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FullThrottle64 (04-19-2022)
04-18-2022 | 05:43 PM
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I agree that the 992 manual feels better than my F80's manual. The lever definitely feels firmer and not nearly as flexy. I guess I'm really talking more about how the lever slots between the various gears. In past, old school cars I've driven, particuarly ones w/ direct shift linkages rather than shifter cables, the shifter would feel like it notches positively into gear. The 992 feels, to me, more like it hits the end of a plastic stop like on a joystick... which is not surprising as the install of numeric shifter videos shows the 991 and 992 shifters to actually be made of plastic.
I wouldn't say it's bad. I was just disappointed as I expectred more of an old school, positive, notchier, direct feel based on how people were talking about how awesome the shifter was. Better than my M3? Definitely. But, that's not saying much as the M3 shifter is quite mediocre IMO.
Glad you are enjoying your 992! Maybe if I hadn't read this forum and the over the top awesome comments about the shifter for months and months before my car arrived, I'd be happy with it. Conversely, I hope my pessimistic comments have made you enjoy yours more!
I definitely plan on getting the numeric shifter though.
I wouldn't say it's bad. I was just disappointed as I expectred more of an old school, positive, notchier, direct feel based on how people were talking about how awesome the shifter was. Better than my M3? Definitely. But, that's not saying much as the M3 shifter is quite mediocre IMO.
Glad you are enjoying your 992! Maybe if I hadn't read this forum and the over the top awesome comments about the shifter for months and months before my car arrived, I'd be happy with it. Conversely, I hope my pessimistic comments have made you enjoy yours more!
I definitely plan on getting the numeric shifter though.
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AlterZgo (04-18-2022)
04-18-2022 | 05:53 PM
#33
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Haven't driven a GTS yet but multiple reviews have said that the GTS shifter is a significant upgrade. Still unclear if its anything beyond just a shorter throw. Curious if its an easy mod to put the GTS shifter on a non GTS
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SamD (04-19-2022)
04-18-2022 | 06:08 PM
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I agree that the 992 manual feels better than my F80's manual. The lever definitely feels firmer and not nearly as flexy. I guess I'm really talking more about how the lever slots between the various gears. In past, old school cars I've driven, particuarly ones w/ direct shift linkages rather than shifter cables, the shifter would feel like it notches positively into gear. The 992 feels, to me, more like it hits the end of a plastic stop like on a joystick... which is not surprising as the install of numeric shifter videos shows the 991 and 992 shifters to actually be made of plastic.
I wouldn't say it's bad. I was just disappointed as I expectred more of an old school, positive, notchier, direct feel based on how people were talking about how awesome the shifter was. Better than my M3? Definitely. But, that's not saying much as the M3 shifter is quite mediocre IMO.
Glad you are enjoying your 992! Maybe if I hadn't read this forum and the over the top awesome comments about the shifter for months and months before my car arrived, I'd be happy with it. Conversely, I hope my pessimistic comments have made you enjoy yours more!
I definitely plan on getting the numeric shifter though.
I wouldn't say it's bad. I was just disappointed as I expectred more of an old school, positive, notchier, direct feel based on how people were talking about how awesome the shifter was. Better than my M3? Definitely. But, that's not saying much as the M3 shifter is quite mediocre IMO.
Glad you are enjoying your 992! Maybe if I hadn't read this forum and the over the top awesome comments about the shifter for months and months before my car arrived, I'd be happy with it. Conversely, I hope my pessimistic comments have made you enjoy yours more!
I definitely plan on getting the numeric shifter though.
I owned a F80 and previous M with manual and found all of them to shift pretty horribly in the sensation department.
04-18-2022 | 06:47 PM
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Not sure but I'm hopeful. Shifter feel is clearly very subjective. I think it may help for me as I like notchier, clicky, positive feeling shifters vs. the buttery smooth Honda type of shifters.
04-19-2022 | 08:12 PM
#36
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99 times out of a hundred I get a response something like "Yeah, can't blame ya one bit."
One of my favorites was pulling up to a very expensive restaurant in a bright yellow Carrera S, seeing the two teenagers at the valet station, then driving right past to a nice single parallel spot a block down the street. As I walked past, one of the kids said "Nice car! Next time, you can just park it right out front with us and keep the keys with you."
Between the 911 and the Challenger, I've found that most people are either impressed and understand, or are completely oblivious and have no business behind the wheel.
FWIW, my wife also prefers a manual, and that's what she drives every day. She rarely wants to drive one of mine, but she can if she needs to, and she has plenty of practice.
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txpackers (04-20-2022)
04-19-2022 | 09:09 PM
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I also have had BMW manuals and the 911 feel is so much better. I didn’t love the BMW M2 manual and ended up switching to an M2 comp DCT. But, after 2 years, that got boring and I wanted to get back into a manual, and my first 911. I don’t think the S manual is rubbery at all. I haven’t driven the GTS manual or the GT3, both of which people say are better than the S, but I am very happy with the feel of the S.