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Detuning A Carrera S/GTS To Feel Like A Base Carrera Engine

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Old 03-15-2022 | 05:08 PM
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Old 03-15-2022 | 05:11 PM
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Posted too early. April Fools day is still two weeks away.
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The tuner giveth and taketh away!

We could drive in valet mode all day long.
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We already have the EPA for this
Old 03-15-2022 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by M Engineering
I'll take your money to make your car slower, I can make that map happen.

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While this post was hypothetical. Though not a joke! I am curious: Is it possible to make the S engine not necessarily slower (thought I guess that would be a side effect) but be more responsive and more linear like the base engine?

What is your take why some people prefer the base engine vs the S/GTS?

If it's just a matter of making the S engine HP/TQ curve look like the base engine's would there be any other differences when driving them?
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Perhaps this person is just pranking everyone here. His user name, "nonce," is slang in UK for pedophile. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce. It's an acronym for "not on normal courtyard exercise" due to the fact that a sex offender is segregated from other prison inmates.
The word has now used more generally in the UK as synonymous with "idiot."

I really think this person is trolling us all.


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Old 03-15-2022 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Bruins
Perhaps this person is just pranking everyone here. His user name, "nonce," is slang in UK for pedophile. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce. It's an acronym for "not on normal courtyard exercise" due to the fact that a sex offender is segregated from other prison inmates.
The word has now used more generally in the UK as synonymous with "idiot."

I really think this person is trolling us all.
I am not! But I'll take the hint that perhaps this is not a constructive question to ask this forum.

The definition of nonce in the US refers to an arbitrary number that should be used just once in a cryptographic communication. Albeit I have since learned about the UK definition and feel I should have done more research before picking this name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_nonce
Old 03-15-2022 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by A Nonce
What is your take why some people prefer the base engine vs the S/GTS?
This is your flawed premise. While many people find the base engine sufficient would not spend the extra money for the S, I don't think it is generally a true statement that "some people prefer the base engine".
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Old 03-15-2022 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew46
This is your flawed premise. While many people find the base engine sufficient would not spend the extra money for the S, I don't think it is generally a true statement that "some people prefer the base engine".
Great point! Judging by the strong responses to this post I would venture to say that you are correct.

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Old 03-15-2022 | 06:13 PM
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Smaller turbos that spin up faster maybe?
Old 03-15-2022 | 06:21 PM
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You could detune your S into a base Carrera, sell it for less, incur a loss, and write off the loss in your tax returns.

That's probably the only reason I could think of for detuning your car.
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The base makes considerably less torque than the S and the S does it right at the start of the rev range. At around 2500RPM, the S makes more torque than the base engine ever makes.

You don’t see that when you just look at the peak numbers. The S cars feel faster everywhere and the GTS is just a little more of that.

The engine and turbos in the Base 992 aren’t a bad setup, but the nonsense peddled about more responsive turbos is just that… nonsense. While it’s not a slow car, the Base feels slower everywhere compared to the S, more so than the difference in peak numbers would indicate.

The Base 992 is no Miata. It’s not more of a driver’s car for making less power. It’s still arguably too fast for public roads.

People put the Carrera T on a pedestal, but it’s not there because it has the Base engine. It has that status for being an affordable entry point for some performance features unrelated to the engine bay.
Old 03-15-2022 | 07:47 PM
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I bought the base car and am adding more power to it, optioned the car the way I wanted it. Still have no idea why you would want to detune for the sake of option accessibility.
Old 03-15-2022 | 08:35 PM
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Maybe the OP believes in the old axiom "it is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow".
I understand this but I still would rather drive a faster car.
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Old 03-15-2022 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Go Bruins
Perhaps this person is just pranking everyone here. His user name, "nonce," is slang in UK for pedophile. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce. It's an acronym for "not on normal courtyard exercise" due to the fact that a sex offender is segregated from other prison inmates.
The word has now used more generally in the UK as synonymous with "idiot."

I really think this person is trolling us all.
No skin in this amusing game, but thats a bit harsh. Everyone else has enjoyed poking fun without a direct insult like calling him a pedo. Just my 2 cents...


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