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Old 01-17-2022 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard_Wallace
Was not trying to be condescending, just logical. As a manual by definition is "self controlled" launch.

FWIW, I have had several 911's, including on my 2nd 992 (had the 2020 C4S and 2022 Targa 4S), I only have had manuals including both my 992's, and I am not after the quickest times. Was just stating that no matter how good you can get "launching" a MT car, the PDK is just spectacular and impossible to beat - in that regard. I own MT 911's for the old school engagement, not launching or 0-60 times (which still is not bad), just not close to the 911's with PDK.

I have a few other cars that have automatics, and they are great and can really lay down 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I am glad Porsche still offers the 911 in a MT, as sometimes it is not about speed.

Point is - if you want a very fast 0-60 time, a MT 911 is not going to be the fastest..
No question that a PDK is faster to 60 from a dead stop than a manual. However, speed can be appreciated in other ways. Trundle along at 25 mph in second gear in a manual and mash the throttle to 7000 rpm and the acceleration is the same as if you tried this in a PDK. The manual is slower through the gears only because of the time that it takes to step on the clutch, select the gear, and release the clutch. These delays are measured in a few tenths of a second, and the seat-of-the-pants sensation really isn't adversely affected. I concede that an emergency stab of the accelerator at any speed in the PDK is going to produce a noticeably quicker response, but for the vast majority of driving situations, the manual doesn't feel like a slower car than the PDK.
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Old 01-17-2022 | 06:55 PM
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PDK is faster, manual is slower. Let’s move on. LOL 😂
Old 01-21-2022 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard_Wallace
That is true! I think I did a video on some shifting speeds (what is the max in each gear) of the 992 C4S (I had one of the first ones in NA) and compared it with the 991.2 MT. They did lower a bit I believe from the 991.2 to 992's on the manuals but it is still pretty tall. Where the PDK has shorter I believe and of course 8 speed rather than the way to many gears on our 7 speed MT's.
My understanding is that the taller MT ratios (vs PDK) is driven by Porsche corporate fuel economy goals - while the PDK will upshift to maximize economy when not being pushed, us troglodyte manual shifters tend to red-line everything so Porsche gives us taller ratios...



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