992 Manual - Burnout?
Racer
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Was not trying to be condescending, just logical. As a manual by definition is "self controlled" launch.
FWIW, I have had several 911's, including on my 2nd 992 (had the 2020 C4S and 2022 Targa 4S), I only have had manuals including both my 992's, and I am not after the quickest times. Was just stating that no matter how good you can get "launching" a MT car, the PDK is just spectacular and impossible to beat - in that regard. I own MT 911's for the old school engagement, not launching or 0-60 times (which still is not bad), just not close to the 911's with PDK.
I have a few other cars that have automatics, and they are great and can really lay down 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I am glad Porsche still offers the 911 in a MT, as sometimes it is not about speed.
Point is - if you want a very fast 0-60 time, a MT 911 is not going to be the fastest..
FWIW, I have had several 911's, including on my 2nd 992 (had the 2020 C4S and 2022 Targa 4S), I only have had manuals including both my 992's, and I am not after the quickest times. Was just stating that no matter how good you can get "launching" a MT car, the PDK is just spectacular and impossible to beat - in that regard. I own MT 911's for the old school engagement, not launching or 0-60 times (which still is not bad), just not close to the 911's with PDK.
I have a few other cars that have automatics, and they are great and can really lay down 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. I am glad Porsche still offers the 911 in a MT, as sometimes it is not about speed.
Point is - if you want a very fast 0-60 time, a MT 911 is not going to be the fastest..
Pro
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From: New Jersey
That is true! I think I did a video on some shifting speeds (what is the max in each gear) of the 992 C4S (I had one of the first ones in NA) and compared it with the 991.2 MT. They did lower a bit I believe from the 991.2 to 992's on the manuals but it is still pretty tall. Where the PDK has shorter I believe and of course 8 speed rather than the way to many gears on our 7 speed MT's.
Rennlist Member
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From: Boca Raton
Indeed - yes I simply want the ability to do something smoky - I want the freedom and option. Manual is how you used to get that. Not having that, or the ability to simply rev the motor in neutral is what makes me nuts.
No doubt Porsche does have computer controlled optimized launch in both PDK and manual. While I'm sure it's fast, it won't be as gratifying as if you've managed that launch w/ your own feet. And by the way if fast is what you're after you will always loose to EVs.
No doubt Porsche does have computer controlled optimized launch in both PDK and manual. While I'm sure it's fast, it won't be as gratifying as if you've managed that launch w/ your own feet. And by the way if fast is what you're after you will always loose to EVs.
Three Wheelin'
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My APR tuned MT 4.0 BGTS 718 will allow a 6,000 rpm clutch dump and there’s still no spin - only hop. I think Porsche engineered it out in the software nannies. My supercharged 993 C4 would spin all 4 tires for a car length. What is the last MT 911 analogue enough I can control myself?
