93 octane minimum
01-26-2021 | 07:57 PM
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Click on www.toptiergas.com and hit the Licensed Brands tab. If you can't buy gas at a major national outlet (almost all of which are listed by Top Tier, with the exception of Sunoco), there are some regional brands that pass muster. Top Tier gases must meet some stringent detergency standards, and it's probably a good idea to run them whenever possible. I'm certain that in an emergency, a non-Top Tier gas would be ok, but on a routine basis, a good brand of gas will keep the engine a lot cleaner. Over the long haul, this is probably more important than 93 versus 91 octane.
01-26-2021 | 08:20 PM
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It's the deal that California made with the devil for the weather and roads. You get to have those things, but suffer through 91 octane.
It's also the same reason that California ended up with amazing Mexican food, but bafflingly can't provide decent Pizza. There is no good pizza in California, period. You may convince yourself that you found a place that's pretty good, until you sample the proper stuff from elsewhere in the country.
It's also the same reason that California ended up with amazing Mexican food, but bafflingly can't provide decent Pizza. There is no good pizza in California, period. You may convince yourself that you found a place that's pretty good, until you sample the proper stuff from elsewhere in the country.
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01-27-2021 | 12:49 PM
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Apples and oranges, or rather MON vs RON. Europe uses the RON and USA uses the average of the RON and MON. European 97 octane is about 91 in the USA.
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01-27-2021 | 02:56 PM
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I thought the US was stuck in the dark ages with poor fuel quality 😂 when in fact it’s basically the same.
FYI in Europe I think it’s only Germany and luxembourg that have 102 octane. Most other countries max is 98.
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01-27-2021 | 03:00 PM
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I didn’t even know this 😌 thanks, the benefits of a forum, we get to learn new things.
I thought the US was stuck in the dark ages with poor fuel quality 😂 when in fact it’s basically the same.
FYI in Europe I think it’s only Germany and luxembourg that have 102 octane. Most other countries max is 98.
I thought the US was stuck in the dark ages with poor fuel quality 😂 when in fact it’s basically the same.
FYI in Europe I think it’s only Germany and luxembourg that have 102 octane. Most other countries max is 98.
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01-27-2021 | 03:07 PM
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bottom line, I want to drive in Germany, eat pizza in New York or Chicago, and vacation (only) in California.
sadly I’m in MN...
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01-27-2021 | 03:46 PM
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01-27-2021 | 10:53 PM
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but the car senses the gas octane rating and adjusts accordingly - the mission is to prevent knocking (pre-ignition in the cylinder) under high stress loads. So max horsepower may be reduced slightly from 93 to 91 octane, but absolutely no other drawbacks. In other words, don't worry about it. Personally, I would be more worried about freshness of the gas / purity.
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01-28-2021 | 07:54 AM
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I didn’t even know this 😌 thanks, the benefits of a forum, we get to learn new things.
I thought the US was stuck in the dark ages with poor fuel quality 😂 when in fact it’s basically the same.
FYI in Europe I think it’s only Germany and luxembourg that have 102 octane. Most other countries max is 98.
I thought the US was stuck in the dark ages with poor fuel quality 😂 when in fact it’s basically the same.
FYI in Europe I think it’s only Germany and luxembourg that have 102 octane. Most other countries max is 98.
01-29-2021 | 02:12 PM
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