Not exactly this go round from what Porsche has said and we're already into MY21 now and soon they'll be planning for MY22 in the upcoming months. From all my SA and a few GMs and 1-2 folks stationed overseas have said Porsche will keep the manual as an option for the S and likely move it into the Carrera T and GTS models and leave the base as PDK only. Much like some other European makers have removed the manual all together or moved it upscale Porsche hasn't gone that far yet but their engineering folks do agree multiple interviews that if not for a small slice of the USA they'd have moved on already and seem to have won out a bit with the 992 by allowing the manual to be moved upscale and upstream to a the performance optioned S vs base car. Thus the you have to pay to play with the gears now in the current 992 forum. Believe me I did a lot of research and after talking to almost 20+ dealers and then some folks at PEC and having a few ask around across the pond, I was pretty convinced that IF we see a base 992 w/7spd manual it would not be anytime in the next 2-3 yrs. Remember the transmissions are mostly the same between the PDK and manuals with just a few slight changes (diff/mounts, etc) and of course the addition of three pedals and the manual shifter in the cabin. So its not like there is NOT the infrastructure to do a manual base 992 on the production line....some even call this one as close an electronic manual as you can get given the combined parts and rev matching syncho features embedded so its not that hard to do probably with other Porsche like the base and one has to assume that Porsche-AG has consciously chosen NOT to do it in the current base car for some other reasons.

My guess is they'd probably canaballized sales from the 992S cars as a base 992 was enough for me after my test drive and was the equal if not better to my 2013 991.1 PDK car and the one I'd have gotten as the sweet spot IF I did not absolutely want a manual car and have that as my deal breaking point as I looked at upgrading from my current Carrera. Sure I can't be the only one out there....

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020...-transmission/

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-ne...-ar186918.html

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...manual-review/

BTW GM took their manuals out of the C8 Corvettes entirely so as has BMW moved away from many of them in their cars....so its not like the trend isn't happening.

 

A lot of what you say re. market positioning and desire or otherwise of manufacturers to leave manuals behind is true, however worth noting a couple of things re. the current manual gearbox. It's of course derived from the old 7-speed PDK and not the current 8-speed one, while the manual change itself is purely mechanical in operation - notably including the rather elegant MECOSA system and the 7th gear lockout mechanism. Most of the electronics used for automatic operation on the PDK are dispensed with, or at least disabled apart from a couple of things like the rev-match and the restart with clutch disengage (linked to start/stop in reality).

It's ironic really, Porsche and ZF go to all this trouble to create what is really an amazingly good automatic transmission based around a manual gearbox, only possible due to a stack of fancy electronics and computing power, then they design and build a really excellent traditional manual gearbox based on the same core unit but to do so dispense with most of those electronics and have to add some really clever but purely mechanical elements! Little wonder they need to find a way to charge more for it.

 

I can't agree with the above more.

I just had a nice weekend driving a friend's 7MT. It wasn't my first time with a 922 MT, but it was my first extended drive in one (about a whole day).

The lasting impression I got from the 7MT is that it is more PDK than a traditional manual gearbox. Between all the electronic gizmos and nannies, like auto rev matching, throttle blipping, anti-stall features, the 992 7MT is about as un-engaging a manual gearbox as one can imagine. If you weren't careful you could find yourself simply letting the car almost shift itself with only the most minimal inputs needed from your left foot and right hand.

It's still fantastic manual gearbox, don't get me wrong -- the gear shifts are clickety-click smooth and precise in a very Germanic way, and the clutch pedal (aside from the anti-stall mode) is nice and progressive, with a response perfectly balanced between robust and delicate -- but to think that this iteration of the 7MT somehow makes the 992 more engaging a drive than a 992 PDK is, I think, a bit of an overstatement and perhaps even bordering on a bit delusional.

To me the 7MT and the PDK are like two sides of the same coin. They're different things, but you're simply looking at two sides of the same thing.

 

Nope, can't see how you come to that conclusion. PDK to me on the road is just...well...a fancy slush-box. On the track, then it makes perfect sense. Not surprising because that's what Porsche developed it for.

But each to their own, nice we have the choice.

 

I wanted a Base with MT. I spent the extra ~$13k for the S. Even though Porsche annoyed me by forcing me to upgrade, I'm glad I did. The extra things, including power/torque are well worth it.

Side note; MT will disappear first, then gasoline. I love my MT 992 and I will keep buying 911's until they stop making the MT.

Also ignore rumors and conjecture. Too many unreliable sources,

 

Coming from a PDK car I have to disagree. In my 991.1S all I had to do and did was turn key to start car and drive...put in Sport mode if I wanted a bit more engagement but that's about it. Road surface didn't matter, Radius of the curve...didn't matter, speed didn't matter, braking distance and range...didn't matter...car did it ALL for me and gloriously so..best dual clutch out there....infinitely better than my 997.1 and 997.2 PDK. boxes too. Transmission is that good. But my involvement otherwise was nada. No planning or paying attention to what the car, the engine, the road was doing....at least with my 992 and the 7Spd MT I do have to think about these things and make some sort of reaction or adjustment in my driving whether I am driving in traffic or more sportily...the transmission and the car just force that. No way around it...even with the anti-stall function...ask me been there too. Agree tho it is almost PDK like and makes even the average MT driver look good! LOL


This right hear...manual gear box preservation!

 

100%, I tried hard to like the DSG in my other car. I know for some people they LOVE sequential. For me it takes too much from the experience. I don't want to devolve this thread into a PDK vs MT transmission. To each their own. I do want to make it clear that I'm so glad I sprung for the extra money to get the MT, I love this gearbox.

 

...and no rear seats